Originally posted by iceman24567
Where did this charming fella' come from?
Earth. Ever been there? 🙂
Originally posted by CortSether
Probably the highway cuz that's where most accidents happen.
Oh hardy har har. How original.
Originally posted by the Darkone
You really showed us your maturity, like you really have any to begin with...Plus you can keep those mother jokes too yourself, I don't play those mother joke games period!
Oh please, you essentially call me an ass kisser in the rudest way possible and now start talking about maturity? Oh the hypocrisy.
Originally posted by Galan007
Even though we've still yet to see it happen on panel, I've always been of the opinion that the PF is a force of creation(a big bang, if you will.) However, the PF certainly isn't the only force in Marvel that manifests big bangs. Other characters such as: Entropy, the Alien Entity, the Beyonder and Sise-Neg(off the top of my head) have generated big bangs/universes on panel-- and several other characters have been stated to have power of that magnitude as well.As far as I'm concerned, the PF is just one of several characters with that power/potential. She certainly isn't special in that regard.
Basically she not all that, what stops ION from erasing her from reality?
There are a lot of beings that can whip the PF, hell the Stranger probably could do it himself, since Xorn defeated Jean Grey and then splitting PF into billion of pieces 🙄, at least Galactus has an excuse in his defeats .
Originally posted by Marvel_Mystic
Earth. Ever been there? 🙂Oh hardy har har. How original.
Oh please, you essentially call me an ass kisser in the rudest way possible and now start talking about maturity? Oh the hypocrisy.
Your the hypocrite, telling me "get off his dick"because I sided with Mr. Master and others that share the same opinion, and telling Im rude, go some where with that BS.
Your mad because I told you prove Mr Master is wrong with your evidence, you come back with an insult, now who is the hypocrite?
Originally posted by the Darkone
Your the hypocrite, telling me "get off his dick"because I sided with Mr. Master and others that share the same opinion, and telling Im rude, go some where with that BS.Your mad because I told you prove Mr Master is wrong with your evidence, you come back with an insult, now who is the hypocrite?
I'm still not a hypocrite because I never acted like I didn't say anything. You started the whole 'i don't play those kind of games' bs after you had already made an insult. And it's you're not your, go back to school.
And I don't need to prove MM wrong, GalacticStorm has already done so.
Originally posted by the Darkone
You really showed us your maturity, like you really have any to begin with...Plus you can keep those mother jokes too yourself, I don't play those mother joke games period!
Originally posted by iceman24567
Ok guys settle down its not that serious
Originally posted by iceman24567
Ok guys settle down its not that serious
I'm cool iceman, but I don't play mother jokes period, I just dont!
It's funny too me, I ask him to prove Mr Master wrong, and he comes back with an insult, because somebody ask you to prove it, but it's cool I know how he is now.
Im leaving it alone, back on topic ION baby
Originally posted by Marvel_MysticAnd I don't need to prove MM wrong, GalacticStorm has already done so.
No he hasn't, he's been proven wrong not just by Mr. Master by others.
That doesn't change the fact the PF is screwed dealing with ION, PF is not in the same league as ION, it's like pitting a ZR1 versus a Bugatti Veyron we all know how that ends, badly!?
Originally posted by ODG
This is from Adventures of the X-Men? None of this is canon.
Incorrect. It was made canon following the M'kraan crystal being retconned into being a multiversal artifact.
The events of X-men Adventures are referenced in the bios of Living Tribunal, Dweller in the Darkness and Galactus. Furthermore it was also referenced in Journey Into Mystery during the Fear Itself arc where the Fear Lords (including Dweller in the Darkness) made an appearance.
Originally posted by the Darkone
No he hasn't, he's been proven wrong not just by Mr. Master by others.
Proved wrong how?
You cant argue against scans stating explicitly that the Phoenix Force is the Big Bang. You cant argue against bios stating that the Phoenix Force is the prime life force of the universe, or scans depicting clearly that it is the sentience of the Big Bang?
You cant.
All you can do is provide contrary opinion but that means nothing in the face of explicit official proof.
If someones argument necessitates you overlooking explicit, official on panel and bio statements and visual depictions then thats a pretty big hint that its a load of bullshit 😬
Originally posted by Mr Master
The Alien Entity "crap"
took place in legitimate mainstream Fantastic Four issues,
and it's in the Handbooks confirmed.While this Phoenix "crap"
took place in an Alternate Reality (NOT mainstream) that diverged from 616.
But it was mainstream 616. Galans ship was depicted, (in that same comic) trying to escape the oblivion of that universe which correlates to all of Galactus' bios.
So no, this wasn't just a alternate reality.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Also, the Alien Entity & Reed didn't ignore anything,
because they stood in the nothingness before the Big Bang.Now, before the Nothingness there was another Reality,
that which was the prior "god/reality" ... the Infinity Being, or previous Eternity.There was never a previous Marvel 616 though,
just existence within the Infinity Being.
(yes, evidently all kinds of life, from demons to humanoids to whatever)
There was a previous 616. It's even stated in the Nova Corps Files that Galan is the sole survivor of that universe.
I agree there was a previous Eternity. He spoke to Galan in his final moments.
And stated that he was dying and that in mere moments ” I shall have drawn all the matter in the cosmos into my bosom and collapse beneath my own abysmal weight”.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Google Marvel Universe.
Or go directly to Marvel.com's site and search Marvel Universe.You'll find the Beginnings of the Universe, and the Ends of the Universe.
Sise-Neg - Entropy/Genis - Thanos/HOTI - Alien Entity/Reed and Galactus' birth.
That's all that's recognized ...
and the Phoenix Force is not mentioned anywhere at all.
Funny how you of all people refer me to google lol.
Anyway, couldn't find it. Could you give me a direct link to the AE bio?
However I did find this on the PF which is a carbon copy of the wiki entry.
http://marvel.com/universe/Phoenix_Force
Stating that the PF saved all from eternal damnation and enabled Galan to be able to communicate with Eternity.
Originally posted by Mr Master
You're not referring to the Mkraan Crystal
that took out that ONE Alternate Reality are you?Actually, you are, therefore your statement is not true.
True.It did stop the Dweller in Darkness from conquering that single Alternate Reality:
No I'm referring to the Mkraan Crystal that threatened and took out all of reality. Stated by Lilandra twice. To Jean and Xavier.
Back when the PF repaired the crystal, the nexus of realities was stated to contain infinite mass which if released, would encompass everything. So it's not far fetched to believe it ate up more than just a single realty.
Originally posted by Mr Master
]This is 100% False.Aside from that scan stating no such thing,
that's not even from the same comic book as the one depicting Phoenix.Phoenix NEVER appeared in that comic. (not even mentioned by name)
Nice try.
No it's not the same comic but wouldn't it be logical to attribute the feelings of Galans crew member ” let your death be a living monument to TAA” to the essence that the PF spread? As seen in this scan, it did spread throughout mainstream 616.
By the way, Mr M, I thought you were supposed to be on hiatus. 😠
Originally posted by ODG
This is from Adventures of the X-Men? None of this is canon.
Thing about it is that issues 11 & 12 at the end of that series, depicts events that tie in to all the bios. However I can't buy this:
Mainly because I refuse to believe that one aspect of the brothers (who represents DC) had anything to do with restoring the MU.
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