Colossusnaut vs WWH
Okay, rematch of the pitiful excuse for a fight we were force fed during World War Hulk.
This instance is different... Piotr is at the mansion protecting Xavier again, but has already taken the Cyttorak Gem.
Hulk gets there and Piotr believes he sees Hulk kill Kitty, sending him past his "Bob Ross moments" and into a blind rage. He goes all out Juggernaut and even steps into Demon form.
What occurs?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
More power, the ease with which he handled Rulk, and the fact that Hulk can only stay in WWH mode.
OK so the Hulk is not allowed to become angry, and when he does it's an auto loss. I see how this one is going to turn out. The Hulk would have destroyed Rulk even easier, and you left out loads of context. Rulk no longer siphons like he once did when he fought the Hulk and was thunder clapped into a near coma. When you leave of context you tend to have people thinking that Rulk was always the kick me in the ass kid that he has become.
If a thread specifies WWH, then we use WWH feats. If a thread says Green Scar Hulk, then it's Planet Hulk and WWH feats. If a thread just Says Hulk, then it's all fair game barring any current arcs which would negate using those feats.
And so, in WWH, Hulk was being given a good fight by Juggy. Not gonna say who would've won, but based on the ease on how he dispatched everyone else (Colossus included), Juggy was obviously up there in terms of power.
And like juggerman said, Cytorrak has given Piotr MOAR POWAH! Plus ColossusGrundy has allowed him to go full demon mode...
Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ even if that laughable ruling is taken seriously, it changes nothing as the same hulk that "fought" juggernaut in that arc was the same one that took a dump on red hulk's chest, and in #5 he showed more power than required to stalemate classic juggernaut.
Why wouldn't it be? Did you check the Character Ruling thread out? I left out a lot of stuff, some of which might be termed context.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And so, in WWH, Hulk was being given a good fight by Juggy. Not gonna say who would've won, but based on the ease on how he dispatched everyone else (Colossus included), Juggy was obviously up there in terms of power.And like juggerman said, Cytorrak has given Piotr MOAR POWAH! Plus ColossusGrundy has allowed him to go full demon mode...
Like I said, if the Hulk isn't allowed to get angry, I know exactly how this clown show will go.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah. Its no shame for the Hulk to lose, imo, if the game is stacked against him. If the thread said Hulk, or WBH vs full demon Colossus, then its a different kettle of fish.
Why are you trying to convince me of a fallacy I'm not heated here, but seriously? It is and always has been how the Hulk rolls, he gets angry, his adrenal levels increase, and he gets stronger. You have no way of knowing just how powerful Peter will get based off of what his new master said. Based on feats the Hulk wins.
The reason for WWH is because of the ridiculous amount of PIS and hero stupidity during that series.. it was worse than AvX.
Not knocking Hulk, but if that were to happen in any other circumstance I would hope it would end differently, with perhaps Hulk having to actually THINK now and then instead of hero after hero just running into him and swinging away. Seems that every time he was on the ropes, the heroes just......... stopped.
Anyway, it's just a scenario change for the sake of what would have happened if the old discounted Colossus was replaced with the much more badass version.
It would be interesting to replace idiot Sentry with a thinking one, and even Thing with the evolved one from the future.... etc etc etc.
If you guys want to continue with WBH or Hulk, fine. Just don't get so bugged by it.