Originally posted by ColossusGrundyyou're the one critiquing a whole arc and the maker of this thread *shrug*
The reason for WWH is because of the ridiculous amount of PIS and hero stupidity during that series.. it was worse than AvX.Not knocking Hulk, but if that were to happen in any other circumstance I would hope it would end differently, with perhaps Hulk having to actually THINK now and then instead of hero after hero just running into him and swinging away. Seems that every time he was on the ropes, the heroes just......... stopped.
Anyway, it's just a scenario change for the sake of what would have happened if the old discounted Colossus was replaced with the much more badass version.
It would be interesting to replace idiot Sentry with a thinking one, and even Thing with the evolved one from the future.... etc etc etc.
If you guys want to continue with WBH or Hulk, fine. Just don't get so bugged by it.
Demon colossus would be a pain even for wwh. He no sold hits from red hulk and was basically treating him like a joke. Of course red hulk is no wwh though. I think this can go either way with either colossus beating him to death or wwh getting fed up and either outlasting his damage and beating him down or winning via bfr.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, it's WWH, so use WWH as the primary evidence for your argument.
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
The reason for WWH is because of the ridiculous amount of PIS and hero stupidity during that series.. it was worse than AvX.Not knocking Hulk, but if that were to happen in any other circumstance I would hope it would end differently, with perhaps Hulk having to actually THINK now and then instead of hero after hero just running into him and swinging away. Seems that every time he was on the ropes, the heroes just......... stopped.
Anyway, it's just a scenario change for the sake of what would have happened if the old discounted Colossus was replaced with the much more badass version.
It would be interesting to replace idiot Sentry with a thinking one, and even Thing with the evolved one from the future.... etc etc etc.
If you guys want to continue with WBH or Hulk, fine. Just don't get so bugged by it.
WWH is an arc, it ended with Hulk almost destroying the Eastern Seaboard with a step.
Also, WWH is the acronym for World War HulkS, which happens a good while after the above incident.
So no matter how some people try to cripple a character (Hulk) by confining him irrationally to a mere arc (when the SAME character is working his way through a multiplicity of arcs), Hulk stomps this.
Given the new illogical ruling, can we use Savage Hulk feats for "WWH"? How about Banner feats?
I'm guessing [if there is any coherence to the thinking behind it] no.
Which sort of makes "WWH" a brand new, one-arc character.
Pretty sure most people who use "WWH" mean the Green Scar persona and that he's not at his HoTM levels, which most posters label as "WBH".
In any case, there's no grand movement against Hulk outside of people who dislike the character or think he's overrated or troll his fanbase. In which case, there's movements against about a dozen characters here.
Originally posted by Stoic
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Okay then, have at it.
Originally posted by janus77
WWH is an arc, it ended with Hulk almost destroying the Eastern Seaboard with a step.Also, WWH is the acronym for World War HulkS, which happens a good while after the above incident.
So no matter how some people try to cripple a character (Hulk) by confining him irrationally to a mere arc (when the SAME character is working his way through a multiplicity of arcs), Hulk stomps this.
Given the new illogical ruling, can we use Savage Hulk feats for "WWH"? How about Banner feats?
I'm guessing [if there is any coherence to the thinking behind it] no.
Which sort of makes "WWH" a brand new, one-arc character.
No. And this agenda of yours is starting to get tiresome.
So why not describe these vs threads more accurately "Hulk whilst at 1% of his powers Vs ..."? 'cos that's far more accurate and honest.
Oh yes I know, 'cos that wouldn't satisfy the trolls 🙂.
They're butthurt over the comics AND over Thor's lack of similar feats, they don't like the fact that Marvel went from Savage Hulk = Thor to Green Scar >>>> Savage Hulk.
There is NO difference between Green Scar from Planet Hulk's end to Green Scar from HOTM, only the usual learning and memory growth that happens with any character. One is just an instance of the other having the opportunity to let loose a little, without consequence.
And KMC battles are usually on featureless grounds so ...
Originally posted by janus77
So why not describe these vs threads more accurately "Hulk whilst at 1% of his powers Vs ..."? 'cos that's far more accurate and honest.Oh yes I know, 'cos that wouldn't satisfy the trolls 🙂.
They're butthurt over the comics AND over Thor's lack of similar feats, they don't like the fact that Marvel went from Savage Hulk = Thor to Green Scar >>>> Savage Hulk.
There is NO difference between Green Scar from Planet Hulk's end to Green Scar from HOTM, only the usual learning and memory growth that happens with any character. One is just an instance of the other having the opportunity to let loose a little, without consequence.
And KMC battles are usually on featureless grounds so ...
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You can't honestly believe that.
Also define "they". Because that's a cop out and a lazy way of proving a point.
Originally posted by -Pr-
facepalmOkay then, have at it.
No. And this agenda of yours is starting to get tiresome.
Are Savage Hulk feats relevant to "WWH"?
The only reason people used to label it WWH was to include the Green Scar AND his latest exploits [WWH arc, back then]. Hulk was known as Green Scar throughout the arc.
To even cut off where WWH arc ends, so as to prevent certain feats from being included, just hammers home the arbitrariness of it.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
facepalmYou can't honestly believe that.
Also define "they". Because that's a cop out and a lazy way of proving a point.
He named no names, but you can see the trolling that goes on wrt Hulk threads.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Like OWAW Superman, DoV Captain Marvel, WBH, Warrior Madness Thor, Siege-try, H/P Doomsday.....
When we started with the whole "WWH Vs" threads, it was to include Green Scar and his latest exploits [that is the then current, WWH arc].
Hence we could refer to feats from Savage Hulk and from Planet Hulk arc [Green Scar].
Now if we're to refer exclusively to a subset of WWH arc feats [nothing too high-end or else!], we are dealing with a completely new character. No reason to suspect that he has any of the traits of Savage Hulk, no proof that he gets stronger as he gets angrier ...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I complained. Because I didn't see why, when the OP said WWH, suddenly WBH was appearing. Obv, in this case, the OP said its OK to use whatever Hulk we wanted...but in the majority of cases, why even bother specifying WWH when we all know it takes a microsecond for Hulk to amp up?
We know - as it states so in the comics - that it's Green Scar and His nickname is also "WorldBreaker".
Complaining to mods is low though, didn't think you'd be that type of a person.
Originally posted by janus77
Ah, as conveniently ignorant as always. You missed the point entirely and then carried on running with it 🙂.
Of course, that's what I do! 🙂
When we started with the whole "WWH Vs" threads, it was to include Green Scar and his latest exploits [that is the then current, WWH arc].Hence we could refer to feats from Savage Hulk and from Planet Hulk arc [Green Scar].
So what about now, AFTER the event has passed, and its no longer his latest exploits? Why use 'WWH' then? Maybe because its easier to type?
Now if we're to refer exclusively to a subset of WWH arc feats [nothing too high-end or else!], we are dealing with a completely new character. No reason to suspect that he has any of the traits of Savage Hulk, no proof that he gets stronger as he gets angrier ...