Originally posted by carver9
They were fighting...Masterson got stomped which lead to Gladiator standing above him laughing. By some miracle, Living Lightning was flying around during this fight...Masterson manipulates living lightning while Gladiator is still standing over Masterson laughing at how weak he is. Masterson hits him with someone else powers while Gladiator didn't even know he was manipulating something outside of his powers (since Masterson own power from his hammer bounced off of Gladiators chest like it was nothing)...he stuns Gladiator and admits that he finally stunned him (without using his own power) and he pounds on a limp, already defeated Glads. Hurray. Before manipulating LL, Masterson wasn't any competition and his body went limp at least twice during that fight. His attacks were meaningless and his durability couldn't withstand Gladiator assault. You trying to twist that fight into something that it is not isn't helping your argument.
You can't be weak and matach someones strength. The difference in ability was obvious in taht Gladiator has mastery over his powerset. Masterson was a noob.
At no point did Masterson hammer bounce off Gladiators chest. A blast from Masterson bounced off and caused Gladiator a great deal of pain.
At no point did his body go limp. Even it had so what? He was the last man standing.
Using living lighting because he was lighting is somehow unfair? Might as well say Namor was being unfair for clubbing Ares by using Simon. He was after all using the durability of another character to do it.
I'm describing it exactly as it is and it very much is helping my argument.
Oh P.S. I'm excited to see your new sig lol. I've never seen you have one on here before.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Ok I guess greater strength feats don't make you stronger these days.
The problem with Thor is most of his best strength feats are from like 30 years ago+ and even then he was still at best as strong as Gladiator, current Thor is definitely not stronger.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
He doesn't have greater pure strength feats. What he does have is better striking feats with Mjolnir which I said in my last post.The problem with Thor is most of his best strength feats are from like 30 years ago+ and even then he was still at best as strong as Gladiator, current Thor is definitely not stronger.
I agree.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
He doesn't have greater pure strength feats. What he does have is better striking feats with Mjolnir which I said in my last post.The problem with Thor is most of his best strength feats are from like 30 years ago+ and even then he was still at best as strong as Gladiator, current Thor is definitely not stronger.
well what a compelling argument. I am forced to agree.......😬 I know you did. But that becomes even more one sided in Thors favor so their is no point in arguing it.
So what? Same character, same history, same feats. Feats dont age or go away unless there is something that rectons them. Like in supermans case. At his best he is > gladiator in strength. The current version of Thor getting jobbed doesnt take his decades of feats away.
A weaker version of himself stalemated Gladiators strength. one who thor overpowered. Not to mention better lifting feats and beter showings in general.
Originally posted by Damborgson
well what a compelling argument. I am forced to agree.......😬 I know you did. But that becomes even more one sided in Thors favor so their is no point in arguing it.So what? Same character, same history, same feats. Feats dont age or go away unless there is something that rectons them. Like in supermans case. At his best he is > gladiator in strength. The current version of Thor getting jobbed doesnt take his decades of feats away.
A weaker version of himself stalemated Gladiators strength. one who thor overpowered. Not to mention better lifting feats and beter showings in general.
No but a character can clearly either surpass or fall below those levels and the strength/durability of Thor is simply not as impressive as it was back then. That changed really after his relaunch in 2007.
Masterson wasn't weaker than normal Thor but he was a noob, and he got pwned until he was let back into the fight by Gladiators overconfidence. If Thor has a better strength feat than Gladiator it's marginal, Gladiator is a planet mover/destroyer Thor isn't, at least not without Mjolnir.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
... ? As compelling a response as your quote of my post required.No but a character can clearly either surpass or fall below those levels and the strength/durability of Thor is simply not as impressive as it was back then. That changed really after his relaunch in 2007.
Masterson wasn't weaker than normal Thor but he was a noob, and he got pwned until he was let back into the fight by Gladiators overconfidence. If Thor has a better strength feat than Gladiator it's marginal, Gladiator is a planet mover/destroyer Thor isn't, at least not without Mjolnir.
Maybe in your eyes. Not in mine.
Not unless there has been a specific mention of a chance in powerlevel. And there hasn't. He's back to classic level strength and therefore his strength feats apply as always. 2007 relaunch Thor is still Thor. We don't get to forget about feats because of new armor or nicer art. Otherwise a large amount of Gladiators feats would also be discredited.
Yes he was and I posted the scans that said he was. Not marginal, but noticeable, and he proved it. Which is the point
Beating a dead space rock with multiple all out punches I'm sure is impressive to some, but not to me. And even so, striking feats don't translate into strength feats.
It's obvious who is stronger when a weaker Thor matched Gladiators' strength. If you put normal Thor in that seat, he would've overpowered him. /topic
Originally posted by iceman24567
Thors been getting his ass beat so much Rage has gone on a hiatus