Originally posted by Lestov16
GTFO with your McStrawmanning with stuff that isn't even remotely comparable to McClane's pathetic featsBauer curbstomps. Get the McBaldhead out of your throat and stop ignoring the blatant evidence.
Pointing out that you like to gimp McClane of his powerset isn't a strawman as you did just that:
Originally posted by Lestov16
McClane factor doesn't exist.
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Bauer still loses. Do we really need yet another thread of this?
Originally posted by Lestov16
Live Action feats only, sorry 🙂It's okay though. Your massive McButthurt can cause you to ignore the [b]blatantly posted
evidence all you want. It's not me who being horribly Mchumilated 😆
GTFO with your McStrawmanning with stuff that isn't even remotely comparable to McClane's pathetic feats
Bauer curbstomps. Get the McBaldhead out of your throat and stop ignoring the blatant evidence.
Jack's point blank nutsack clouds your view, and his lovecrust has blocked up your brain. You are a nexus and conduit for all the butthurt in the universe.
It is you who are ignoring evidence.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ermmm....nope.
You wanted "all vs."....you got it...or are you scared by the facts that are just the cherries on Bauer's doomcake...? Gimplalicious.
Fine. Show me an instance in the game which shows McClane above Bauer in H2H, gunfights, or melee.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope gimp attempt one is what it was, gimperelli. There is no strawmannery here from the pro-McClaners..It is you who are ignoring evidence.
Alright, fine. I will ignore no evidence you post to counter my argument. Post every screenfeat McClane has to make your case. I'm all ears.
I've made my argument, with all of my evidence right here:
Originally posted by Lestov16
😆 Yeah, get that baseless McBias out of your system.Bauer McRapes.
14:18 Bauer wall-run neck snaps a guy (after withstanding torture and a plane crash)
25:16 Bauer takes down 3 dudes with a single punch, headbutt, and clothesline, respectively
37:43 Bauer leg sweeps a man and then snaps his neck with his legs in seconds, while Bauer is restrained
39:56 Bauer breaks a man's neck with his legs nigh-effortlessly while hanging onto a pipe
42:52 Bauer breaks a man's neck effortlessly
Show me [b]any
proof of McClane showing this kind of proficiency in H2H. And McClane isn't as durable as Bauer either, as Bauer underwent 20 months of this:and then, in the 24-hour period after he was released, killed 51 people, including jump-kicking a sucide bomber out of a moving subway train (41:27 ).
Also, Bauer has tanked far worse explosions than McClane ( 37:15-39:07)
😆 The McBias just never stops! Bauer one-man raids terrorist compounds (42:00-46:00), slaughters Government Consulates (after withstanding his second knife wound to the abdomen) (103:56-104:57), and shoots down assault helicopters with a handgun (25:41-26:15)
Bauer rapes him in gun feats
Bauer tore a man's throat out with his teeth (40:25). McClane has never had a kill that impressive. Ever.
Also, as far as McClane somehow getting the jump on Bauer in the dark, Bauer pwns assault commandos who use night vision using stealth (31:57), so your McBiased claims are, once again, baseless. [/B]
Counter this evidence, which you have not done once in this thread, and show McClane outperforming Bauer in H2H, gunfights, or melee, or GTFO with your obvious McButthurt
Originally posted by dadudemon
2. Difficult to say. I will give this one to McClane, temporarily. But I can be persuaded.
Bauer is a God with his handgun. He has made precision shots many of times, on assault helicopters and people, including one's holding hostages like the fatal bullet Jack put in
Spoiler:
Curtis
Originally posted by Robtard
Pointing out that you like to gimp McClane of his powerset isn't a strawman as you did just that:Bauer still loses. Do we really need yet another thread of this?
You are correct. I was incorrect in my assessment. Let me make a proper one. The fact that you have to resort to such obvious BS as the "McClane Factor" shows how McBiased and baseless all of your claims have been.
The only way you can prove that is to disprove the posted evidence. Counter the screenfeats, or GTFO with your McFanboyism
Bauer rapes McClane
Well the PSX game alone has more destruction than Bauer has ever caused. Look for yourself...it'll be on youtube under Die Hard trilogy PSX. Do your research...then know for yourself ...now go thee forth, my son...
McClane wins in a spectacularly horrifyingly violent way and scores with a humourous quip about the likely fact that Bauer dies with a Tazer in his anus.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well the PSX game alone has more destruction than Bauer has ever caused. Look for yourself...it'll be on youtube under Die Hard trilogy PSX. Do your research...then know for yourself ...now go thee forth, my son...
Yeah, no. The burden of proof is on you to prove McClane wins this.
You have no evidence? Okay. Bauer wins due to better feats. End of story. Either counter the evidence (burden of proof is on you to do so) or GTFO.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane wins in a spectacularly horrifyingly violent way and scores with a humourous quip about the likely fact that Bauer dies with a Tazer in his anus.
Yes. More meaningless, nonsensical meandering to poorly hide the blatantly obvious fact that you have no argument whatsoever 😂
YouTube video And looks like they played it on easy. More guys on the harder difficulty.
And your arguments have all been disproved many times over.
Originally posted by Lestov16
You are correct. I was incorrect in my assessment. Let me make a proper one. The fact that you have to resort to such obvious BS as the "McClane Factor" shows how McBiased and baseless all of your claims have been.The only way you can prove that is to disprove the posted evidence. Counter the screenfeats, or GTFO with your McFanboyism
Bauer rapes McClane
Correct, I was correct and you were incorrect. Baby step progress. Taking away a powerset because you don't like it isn't a "proper one" or proper way to debate. Again, would you strip Superman of his invulnerably because Bauer doesn't have a means to overcome it? You probably would.
All pro-Bauer evidence has already been broken down and shown to be inferior to what McClane can and has done.
Only in his dreams.
Bauer would have raped those chumps had he been placed in the same position, especially if the same health packs were lying around everywhere. He has far quicker reflexes, is a far better shot, and also,
The worst thing of all, is that even on that level, Bauer still massively outclasses him.
That was McClane's hardest, most difficult final level? An office building and some cabin with some amateur terrorists? 😆
Bauer slaughters military compounds:
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YouTube video
So even with those precious "EU feats" that you so desperately wished could somehow rescue you from confronting the massive pile of McBullshit you've created that is about to topple over on you,
McClane is still horribly outclassed by Bauer on every level.
Again, show some evidence of McClane, in any medium, outdoing Bauer in H2H, gunfights, or melee, or GTFO.
Bauer massacres McClane
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthAnd your arguments have all been disproved many times over.
Originally posted by Robtard
All pro-Bauer evidence has already been broken down and shown to be inferior to what McClane can and has done.
At what point in this thread? 🤨
We are two pages in and I've already shown the Pro-McClane side's video game feats to be worthless trash compared to Bauer's. At what other point? Can you quote it for me?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Already have in numerous threads in the mvf. Lots of times. and the movies are a clear and obvious as themselves... Move on and accept your wrongness.
😆
WTF? 😕
Is this even allowed in a thread? Can someone just make baseless claims and then not post evidence to back up their position?
Can I get Imp or a Mod ruling on this? Maybe I'm wrong on this, but it just doesn't seem fair to a logical debate to me.
It's like a defense attorney going to court and then when asked to provide the evidence proving their client innocent says "Well, I didn't bring it with me, and the prosecutor has clearly laid out out an obvious open-and-shut case, but based on the evidence I haven't presented to you, you can clearly tell my client is innocent!". Is that how versus threads work? Shouldn't the advocates be the ones to back up their claims? I backed up mine.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Bauer dies with a quick poke in the arse with a tazer.McClane wins.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Yes. More meaningless, nonsensical meandering to poorly hide the blatantly obvious fact that you have no argument whatsoever 😂
I would prefer it to be noted that the Pro-McClane side is baiting. One part of the McClane camp (Sadako) asked to compare video game feats. I did, and now another part of the McClane camp (Rob) is trolling me for it.
Even worse is that he is trolling me while continuing to make baseless claims that have yet to be proven. Matter of fact, One will note that the pro-McClane camp have countered none of the posted evidence yet...
When that question is:
Originally posted by Robtard
So now it's movie McClane vs Movie Bauer/TV Show Bauer/Video Game Bauer?LoL, can you get anymore butthurt?
Yes, that is trolling.
Like I said, the Pro-McClane camp is attempting to bait me. They are accusing me of focusing only on Bauer's video game feats while ignoring McClane's, even though I clearly didn't do this and rather compared the videos.
And through the comparisons, it's clear Jack outclasses McClane in video games feats. If the McClane camp have evidence to counter it, they should post the evidence
They are also accusing me of butthurt, even though the fact that they are making baseless complaints about the thread conditions like a PMSing woman, rather than countering the posted evidence like a logical debate in fact shows their obvious McButthurt.
Originally posted by Robtard
I was asking for clarification, as it seems you're using every single facet of Bauer that exist while limiting McClane.
I already clarified it here, though you probably couldn't read it with all of that raging, blinding McBias you have in you:
Originally posted by Lestov16
Fine. Show me an instance in the game which shows McClane above Bauer in H2H, gunfights, or melee.Alright, fine. I will ignore no evidence you post to counter my argument. Post every screenfeat McClane has to make your case. I'm all ears.
I proceeded to refute the video game evidence the McClane camp posted by proving Bauer has more impressive video game feats.
Do you have any evidence to back McClane? I've been asking you to counter my arguments for the longest time, and you prolong doing so for some reason. It's okay though. Listen, if my questions are too much for you, just say so and I'll stop.