Jack Bauer vs John McClane

Started by Lestov1611 pages
Originally posted by Robtard

😂 Indeed. What was it that a pro-McClaner said?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Those will little else to say will copy paste their own inane nothings, in Vs. Forums, ad nauseum: Adhering to the principal of "Even the greatest of lies will be believed (by the person saying it) if repeated of often enough."

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol @ McClane fans getting bitchy over getting their asses handed to them yet again.

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Originally posted by Lestov16
😂 Indeed. What was it that a pro-McClaner said?

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You might want to look up what "Ad Nauseum" means.

Your ridiculously-baseless claims induce nausea at first sight. Less lone when you keep repeating them in a quote

(note that you are still ignoring the evidence 😂 )

Originally posted by Lestov16
Your ridiculously-baseless claims induce nausea at first sight. Less lone when you keep repeating them in a quote

(note that you are still ignoring the evidence 😂 )

You might want to look up what "keep repeating" implies. Posting something twice, is posting something twice.

Now your copy/paste wall of Bauer's feats (which where all countered before) from the MVF that you posted ad nauseum there and are starting to post here. Well, that.

You're like the new RJ in hating the fact that McClane can win matches that you would like not seen won. I'm not saying Jack Bauer is some slouch, but he'd lose in your scenarios, and that's all there is to it. He may not have 6 seasons of feats, but his 4 movies of feats are far more impressive. Especially when it comes to your scenario.

Re-posting feats isn't the same as some irrelevant McButthurt message

Instead of trying to throw the thread off-topic with meaningless bullshit, why don't you Counter The Evidence, which you have yet to do in this entire thread.

Originally posted by Kaibs
You're like the new RJ in hating the fact that McClane can win matches that you would like not seen won. I'm not saying Jack Bauer is some slouch, but he'd lose in your scenarios, and that's all there is to it. He may not have 6 seasons of feats, but his 4 movies of feats are far more impressive. Especially when it comes to your scenario.

So is Nephthys:

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol @ McClane fans getting bitchy over getting their asses handed to them yet again.

Or Placidity:

Originally posted by Placidity
Jack Bauer wins, not even close.

Or Dadudemon:

Originally posted by dadudemon
1. Bauer due to having significantly better H2H feats (just see Lestov's above post).
2. Difficult to say. I will give this one to McClane, temporarily. But I can be persuaded.
3. Easily Bauer. This is where Bauer is at his best: close-quarters, improvisation. McClane is also at his best, here, as well...but much more so for Bauer than McClane.

also "The New RJ"? Your qualification for someone being "The New RJ" (which you seem to treat as a post equivalent to "The new Pol Pot"😉 is that they must believe McClane wins these scenarios, despite the fact that posted evidence shows that Bauer clearly outclasses him.

But why do you think that McClane wins this? What has McClane done exactly, in your eyes, that nets him an advantage over Bauer?

Originally posted by Lestov16
So is Nephthys:

Or Placidity:

Or Dadudemon:

also "The New RJ"? Your qualification for someone being "The New RJ" (which you seem to treat as a post equivalent to "The new Pol Pot"😉 is that they must believe McClane wins these scenarios, despite the fact that [b]posted evidence shows that Bauer clearly outclasses him.

But why do you think that McClane wins this? What has McClane done exactly, in your eyes, that nets him an advantage over Bauer? [/B]

When I'm home from work, I'll work on a response that makes sense feat wise. And the fact that you refuse to acknowledge something that clearly exists is definitely hindering your argument.

And if you don't know what I mean by the "New RJ", then you obviously have forgotten how he used to be on the board.

Your argument doesn't make sense "feat-wise".

Bauer withstood 20 months of this: YouTube video

And then in the 24 hour period he was released killed 51 people. This includes precision gunshots, effortless neck snaps, jump-kicks, and tearing a man's throat out with his teeth.

McClane has never withstood that much damage and still functioned, less lone killed 51 people. Worst McClane has started out with is a hangover. That does not compare.

You do realize that the purpose of torturing someone for intel is NOT to kill the person, right? In fact, if a torturer kills someone, they're generally considered a poor torturer.

So your "Bauer withstood 20 months of mild electroshocks so he beats McClane!!!11!!" is severely flawed.

Of course you'll ignore this counter as typical.

Originally posted by Robtard
You do realize that the purpose of torturing someone for intel is NOT to kill the person, right? In fact, if a torturer kills someone, they're generally considered a poor torturer.

So your "Bauer withstood 20 months of mild electroshocks so he beats McClane!!!11!!" is severely flawed.

Dude right in the video said "that amount of torture will kill him", and Cheng still kept on pushing Jack's torture, so it's not like Bauer withstood a brush from a feather, like you are blatantly trying to downplay it as.

Also, I said Bauer wins because he has screenfeats, which I have posted numerous times in this thread, which blatantly show that he does.

Originally posted by Robtard
You do realize that the purpose of torturing someone for intel is NOT to kill the person, right? In fact, if a torturer kills someone, they're generally considered a poor torturer.

So your "Bauer withstood 20 months of mild electroshocks so he beats McClane!!!11!!" is severely flawed.

Of course you'll ignore this counter as typical.

Not to mention that he technically didn't withstand it due to flatlineage.

McClane wins.

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All Lestov seems to be doing is dancing with the "You haven't reposted the pages and pages of arguments you made countless times in the other Bauerholehurt threads!! Therefore you have no evidence" tact again here.

Lestov:

Anyone who reads those threads in the MVF will find this no surprise, as you tried that before in those threads when all else failed for you (which was a lot).

The burden of proof is on you to prove, as the butthurt thread starter, to back up your broken hearted rage ass claim that even as good as Bauer is (with constant CTU backup, obviously) that he could singlehandley beat McClane. And you have had all these threads to do it before: and you have nothing now.

That game by itself features across each games many levels more action and feats, death count than Bauer.
And there are like 11-12 carnage filled games backing up McClane, across many different formats and times.
Many feature him being shot loads of times and still surviving to kill his opponents. Looks like they got McClane's durability down well.... 🙂
This is why your claim that Pixel Bauer has superiority over Pixel McClane is so laughably insane.

So...........

in your entire McButthurt post, you've presented a grand total of zero evidence to support your claims that McClane wins 😆.

Thus, due to lack of evidence, Bauer wins by default.

Either counter the evidence, or GTFO

Originally posted by Lestov16
Dude right in the video said "that amount of torture will kill him", and Cheng still kept on pushing Jack's torture, so it's not like Bauer withstood a brush from a feather, like you are blatantly trying to downplay it as.

Also, I said Bauer wins because he has screenfeats, which I have posted numerous times in this thread, which blatantly show that he does.

Obviously they were wrong or just exaggerating, considering a handheld taser killed him before.

Not in the scenarios you listed. McClane wins.

It killed him because it was held directly on his heart for 10 seconds. That would kill any man, and especially McClane, so stop with your obvious nonsensical downplaying. Bauer survived two knife wounds and a gunshot to the chest and was still able to walk, so he massively outclasses McClane in the durability department.

If you can prove it, sure. Until you post evidence doing so, Bauer wins. It's not my job to defend McClane, and if it is, then whoever designed these versus forums is a retard. You are making baseless claims and not even offering any evidence to back them up. Pretty sure that's trolling...

Counter the evidence, or GTFO

Originally posted by Lestov16
It killed him because it was held directly on his heart for 10 seconds. That would kill any man, and especially McClane, so stop with your obvious nonsensical downplaying. Bauer survived two knife wounds and a gunshot to the chest and was still able to walk, so he massively outclasses McClane in the durability department.

If you can prove it, sure. Until you post evidence doing so, Bauer wins. It's not my job to defend McClane, and if it is, then whoever designed these versus forums is a retard. You are making baseless claims and not even offering any evidence to back them up. Pretty sure that's trolling...

Counter the evidence, or GTFO

A small handheld taser would not kill a man of Bauer's size, unless he has some medical condition. The battery would run out of juice before that happened. So there's that out the door.

It's been done in the other Bauer Vs McClane threads. I see no reason to vomit the same arguments I and others have previously made or do a copy/paste job.

And the McClane camp continues to fail to produce any proof that McClane wins this 😆

Bauer wins by default....

You ignore and gimp everything McClane and boost Bauer to ridiculous levels.

Hence McClane wins by default.

Originally posted by Robtard
A small handheld taser would not kill a man of Bauer's size, unless he has some medical condition.

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First off, I love how you are downplaying the Stun Gun like it's a feather.

39:19-40:16

McClane would have been killed just as dead if he had taken that much tazering.

Originally posted by Robtard
The battery would run out of juice before that happened. So there's that out the door.

Yep, but when the old-ass Tazer Lady from Die Hard 2 was able to knock a grown man unconscious with a small zap from it, all of a sudden that's okay.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's been done in the other Bauer Vs McClane threads. I see no reason to vomit the same arguments I and others have previously made or do a copy/paste job.

😆 And for the billionth time, you make paltry excuses instead of countering the evidence (because you can't)

Either provide evidence that McClane can beat Bauer, or Bauer wins by default. Deal.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You ignore and gimp everything McClane

Fine. I won't anymore. Now provide the evidence.

Or GTFO