Jack Bauer vs John McClane

Started by Lestov1611 pages

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Bauer rapes McClane in every confrontation imaginable.

McClane has shit durability compared to Bauer. Bauer withstood 20 months of torture, like this:

YouTube video out of sheer willpower and then killed 51 people.

McClane struggled to kill 15 terrorists after getting a full night's rest on an airplane.

Bauer has also taken several explosions to the face. 37:50-39:07 Also note Bauer only had a cop car when the tank exploded right next to him.

Chicken McBytch, on the other hand, didn't even tank his gas plant explosion, as he was able to shield himself with a huge van that was far away from the explosion and had another truck next to it to absorb most of the explosion. Hell, Justin Long's punk ass was virtually unaffected. 73:23

Also, McClane fell to the ground like a bytch and immediately needed emergency assistance after shooting himself. Justin Long's punk ass needed to save him 😂 (115:35)

Bauer was still walking, and that was after a bullet to the chest and 2 knife wounds to the abdomen, and torture 107:03 . Whereas McChump couldn't even handle a simple 2 bullets to the shoulder 😆

Also, as far as accuracy goes, McClane's is shit compared to Bauer. McClane's never taken down a helicopter with a handgun (matter of fact, he was trapped if he didn't shoot the highly visible and in close range wire box on the building (120:04, and also note he had to shoot twice to hit it. ) and never taken down entire terrorist compounds with a handgun.

And of course, H2H-wise, Bauer snaps necks effortlessly, whereas McBytch needs an entire staircase 😆

Unless proven otherwise, Bauer massacres McClane in every category imaginable.

Regurgitating the same failed arguments over and over won't make them true; we've covered your "OMG, Bauer is tougher he survived torture" claims, torturing someone for intel isn't meant to kill them, it's meant to cause pain; if the person dies, then the torturer hasn't done his job properly. ie why Bauer died from a small hand-held taser, the guy doing the zapping/torture didn't realize Bauer was made of mush. The Chinese were smarter and probably realized Bauer's poor ticker and compensated for it.

Now surviving explosions like McClane has, that's superman durability and why McClane > Bauer 24/7.

"McClane couldn't even handle a simple 2 bullets", yet he clearly did, as he survived. You also fail to mention that the second bullet was done by himself and he had withstood all of the films explosions, flying out of cars, jumping off F-35's etc up until that point. So stop downplaying.

LOL at your hypocritical McDownplaying. That 20 months of torture was more than McChump has ever tanked, and he still went to kill 51 people after that.

Bauer's taken on worse explosions, as clearly proven in my previous post. Stop McIgnoring the blatant evidence. It doesn't speak well of you.

Doesn't matter if McClane was a retard who got into a compromising position. He sustained 2 gunshots and couldn't handle them, and immediately fell to the ground like a chump. Bauer was walking, with bullet and knife wounds. Hell, he was even capable of fighting. McRetard had to crouch behind a car because he was weak 😆

He was far away from the explosions he was in and had sufficient cover, as clearly proven in my previous post. Stop McIgnoring the blatant evidence. It doesn't speak well of you.

Bauer has taken on far worse damage in one 24-hour period than McClane took in that entire film. and still WTFpwned all enemies. McClane had to be saved by Justin Long 😆 At least when Bauer needed to be rescued, it was because he was out of bullets. McBytch was just too weak to fight because he's a chump. 😂

Bauer rapes McClane

Incorrect about the gunshots: Watch the movie called Die Hard.
Pure misrepresentation and downplay by you again.
(Still playing that record even after all that time...isnt the stylus needle worn out yet?)
Everything Bauer does can be credited to the team constantly helping him to stay alive.

Sure Bauer so tough. 🙄
Expect when an old lady's tazer makes him die and piss and shit himself (which is a natural thing to do when killed.)

Bauer cannot rape McClane, not even metaphorically (even metaphorically and with all his support team behind him, with Tony fluffing him first.)

Well the 24 hour period still pales compared to what McClane achieves in 2 hours x 12.

Bauer would rape McClane. Matter of fact, Bauer would rape McClane horribly with a tazer, as proven onscreen by Bauer torturing Burnett.

McClane would get raped by tazers. He goes down like a bytch to a couple of gunshots 😂, unlike Bauer, who was still able to run and fight after sustaining far worse damage.

Unless you have screenfeats that prove otherwise, McClane goes down like a bytch to tazers, whereas Bauer withstood months of electric torture and then killed 51 people

Bauer rapes McClane in every orifice

Nah there is nothing in McClane's screefeats to suggest that McClane is vulnerable to Tazers at all, let alone being terminally succeptible to the laughable degree that Bauer is. That Tazer would be rammed through Bauer's eye like an icicle and if Bauer is in range to deliver a tazer charge, McClane would grab hold of Bauer and Bauer would snuff it (again).

And since these matches are about first to die, Bauer is totally and utterly screwed with his track record. 🙂

Ergo (for these and many other reasons) its another situation of McWinnage.

😆 Stop smoking such strong shit. Bauer would rape McClane in any kind of CQB confrontation. Bauer can kill with his bare hands and with melee weapons. GTFO with your McBiased lies.

How does McClane kill Bauer? You state Bauer will die because he was tazed directly in the heart for 10 seconds while completely restrained. A tazer will be in none of the matches, and McClane has shown on many occasion that he lacks the H2H skill to even attempt to try to restrain Bauer, who has shown far greater H2H skill that puts McClane to shame. So the fact that you reached the conclusion that McClane will win these matches with a weapon that he doesn't have access to using skills he has never displayed only leads to one conclusion: you are a McBiased Troll making up BS

It is you are the smoker of strong shit... Bauer kills regular TV villians with his bare hands.
Not McClanes. (IE Epic movie heroes)

You just stated that a tazer would be used to kill McClane.
Well if you now would like to change your trollesque position, no worries.
Loud unexpected noises will do for Bauer's ticker.

It is you who are the troll here, and in all of your anally aching threads. And a particularly butthurt one at that.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It is you are the smoker of strong shit... Bauer kills regular TV villians with his bare hands.
Not McClanes. (IE Epic movie heroes)

This is the AVF forum 😐 . WTF do you mean? Stop Trolling

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You just stated that a tazer would be used to kill McClane.
Well if you now would like to change your trollesque position, no worries.
Loud unexpected noises will do for Bauer's ticker.

Why would I change my position? 😆 Like I stated, Bauer would taze McClane to death if Bauer had a tazer and even if McClane managed to break loose or if he had the tazer initially, he doesn't have the CQB/H2H skill to taze Bauer before Bauer disarms him and snaps his neck like a twig. Screenfeats from the DH films and 24 prove this

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It is you who are the troll here, and in all of your anally aching threads. And a particularly butthurt one at that.

😆 You continue to massively embarrass yourself by further choking on that McBaldhead. Your hypocrisy is as blatant as a nuclear explosion. You talk about trolling yet you bring up instances from other threads rather than providing proof once in this thread, which is on a completely different sub-forum than the ones you are obviously McButthurt about. Like I stated, either accept the fact that you are wrong and that your hero is a chump compared to Bauer, provide screenfeat evidence proving otherwise, or GTFO with your reprehensible McTrolling

And? Theres no trolling, you big old downplaying, gimping troll.
Movie grade villianry is more than run of the mill generic TV villianry.

Compare the biggest villain in Days of our lives to the grandiose awseomeness of even the more banal Bond villian..? Oh thats right: you can't.

This is your brain:

2+2=4. Up is up. Down is down. Water is wet.

This is your brain pumped with Bauer semen:

You continue to massively embarrass yourself by further choking on that McBaldhead. Your hypocrisy is as blatant as a nuclear explosion. You talk about trolling yet you bring up instances from other threads rather than providing proof once in this thread, which is on a completely different sub-forum than the ones you are obviously McButthurt about. Like I stated, either accept the fact that you are wrong and that your hero is a chump compared to Bauer, provide screenfeat evidence proving otherwise, or GTFO with your reprehensible McTrolling

Originally posted by Lestov16
LOL at your hypocritical McDownplaying. That 20 months of torture was more than McChump has ever tanked, and he still went to kill 51 people after that.

Bauer's taken on worse explosions, as clearly proven in my previous post. Stop McIgnoring the blatant evidence. It doesn't speak well of you.

Doesn't matter if McClane was a retard who got into a compromising position. He sustained 2 gunshots and couldn't handle them, and immediately fell to the ground like a chump. Bauer was walking, with bullet and knife wounds. Hell, he was even capable of fighting. McRetard had to crouch behind a car because he was weak 😆

He was far away from the explosions he was in and had sufficient cover, as clearly proven in my previous post. Stop McIgnoring the blatant evidence. It doesn't speak well of you.

Bauer has taken on far worse damage in one 24-hour period than McClane took in that entire film. and still WTFpwned all enemies. McClane had to be saved by Justin Long 😆 At least when Bauer needed to be rescued, it was because he was out of bullets. McBytch was just too weak to fight because he's a chump. 😂

Bauer rapes McClane

You still don't understand what was happening then. The Chinese were not trying to kill Bauer. Not sure I can simplify it more.

Bauer hasn't.

More downplaying of McClane and of course ignoring that Bauer has gotten himself captured many a time. Remember all those pics of Bauer handcuffed or tied to a chair or length of pipe? Yeah, I'm sure you do.

McClane's been in explosions/scenarios that would has liquefied a human body. Don't be a dunce. We've been through this many a time is the other threads.

Incorrect and again more accusing McClane of failings that Bauer has done/been in himself. If McClane using guys like Al, Zeus and Farrell is some negative, what does that say about Bauer needing the CTU, Tony, Chloe or the help of everything the POTUS could levy? Exactly. McClane does more with a lot less; this is a fact. McClane wins.

Originally posted by Robtard
You still don't understand what was happening then. The Chinese were not trying to kill Bauer. Not sure I can simplify it more.

Duh., They were trying to interrogate him. Bauer didn't say a single word. For 20 months. Out of sheer willpower........and then the day he was released killed 51 people. GTFO with your McRetard argument

Originally posted by Robtard
More downplaying of McClane

How did I downplay McClane? McClane fell to the ground from one bullet to the shoulder. Bauer was still walking and fighting after a bullet and 2 knife wounds. Stop your obvious McOverhyping

Originally posted by Robtard
and of course ignoring that Bauer has gotten himself captured many a time. Remember all those pics of Bauer handcuffed or tied to a chair or length of pipe? Yeah, I'm sure you do.

and of course ignoring that McClane has gotten himself captured many a time. Remember this scene from DH3?

Yeah. McClane got his chump ass captured. Not to mention how much this further exposes your blatant hypocrisy, since he is chained to a length of pipe 😂.

Also, as far as Bauer being handcuffed goes, didn't most of those instances end with Bauer snapping his captor's neck like a twig with his legs, (or ripping it out entirely) ? Yeah they did. McClane doesn't have near that skillset, so stop ignoring the blatant evidence and being a trolling dunce. Please. For the love of God.

Originally posted by Robtard
McClane's been in explosions/scenarios that would has liquefied a human body. Don't be a dunce. We've been through this many a time is the other threads.

So what? Bauer withstood 20 months of torture out of sheer willpower and then the day he came back killed 51 people. And then, later in life, was able to run and fight after sustaining a bullet wound and two knife wounds to the abdomen. Massively outweighs any durability feat McClane has, since McClane has proven onscreen weaknesses (in his most recent showings as well) of going down to a bullet.

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect and again more accusing McClane of failings that Bauer has done/been in himself. If McClane using guys like Al, Zeus and Farrell is some negative, what does that say about Bauer needing the CTU, Tony, Chloe or the help of everything the POTUS could levy?

It says 2 things

1) It says that you foolishly think McClane takes on situations near the complexity of Bauer's. There's no way in hell McClane would get through 24 even with CTU's help, less lone solo. He was struggling against his own lesser foes. Stop McOverhyping McClane

2) It says that you massively overhype the amount of help Jack gets. You know for a fact most of the time Jack is in the field, he is solo

Originally posted by Robtard
McClane does more with a lot less; this is a fact.

McClane wins.

😆

Wow, what a retarded statement! When has McClane had to save the world from a epidemic, a nuclear holocaust (one far more destructive than the one in DH4 would have been), or global wars? Hell, has McClane ever saved the POTUS from a siege in the White House like Jack did?

McClane handles lesser situations and lesser foes than Bauer does, which is why he needs lesser help. McClane doesn't take on situations near the same magnitude or complexity than Bauer takes on, and definitely would not be able to handle the situations even with the amount of help Bauer gets, less lone could he solo them, and to say otherwise just makes you look more like the McBiased Buffoon that you are constantly proving yourself to be.

Glad I could finally make you understand that the Chinese weren't trying to kill him, so hopefully you'll stop using that "20 months!" like it's some durability feat.

By making it seem far worse than it was.

I never ignored that McClane has been captured, I pointed out that you'll use McClane's capture as some huge negative while ignoring all the times Bauer has been captured and needed Tony or some other to save him.

Just when I thought you had finally understood that the Chinese were not trying to kill Bauer, here you go again. See above.

It does say two things.

1) McClane does more with less
2) McClane doesn't need nearly the same level of help Bauer does to accomplish his goals.

Your premise is faulty, considering Bauer accomplishes his goals with massive help and resources. Give the same resources to McClane, he does it in 12 hours.

It is a durability feat. He didn't talk under the torture. How can you not comprehend this obvious logic?

😆 I'd didn't exaggerate anything. Bauer can tank bullets and McClane can't. Onscreen evidence from 24 and LFODH prove this. Deal.

They've both been captured! There ya go! That doesn't change the fact that Bauer has better H2H, gun, and melee feats than McClane, which is what this thread is about.

Again, he didn't succumb to the torture. That's a durability feat.

What is this "more"? What villainous plot did he stop that Bauer hasn't stopped of an equal or greater magnitude? Stop ignoring that Bauer takes on more complex plots and thus needs more help.

He'd do what in 12 hours? Stop a 24 plot? 😆 N***a, you crazy? McClane lacks the H2H skills to perform a simple leg-neck-snap to get the henchmen's gun on the plane to protect himself from Ramon Salazar in S3, so he can't even get through half of 1 day, let alone 8. GTFO with your McBiased lies

My error, it would be like a durability feat; just not a very good one. Now being blown out of a window and then managing to grasp a ledge and surviving the G's that would have shredded a human body, that's a good durability feat.

More downplay McClane + masturbate Bauer.

Finally, a little objectivity.

Again, just not a very good one; especially compared to what McClane can take.

McClane does more with less, considering his help is minimal most of the time.

Not only would he do a 24 plot in 12 hours, you'd get twice the action. McClane wins here, it's been shown.

Bauer has better H2H, gun, and melee feats and thus wins. Stop McTrolling with your meaningless BS

Didn't we discuss regurgitating the same failed arguments.

The fact that Bauer clearly has better feats than McClane in H2H, gunfights, and melee is a "failed argument"? 😆 Wow, what pathetic McTrolling

The fact that you have to gimp McClane in order for Bauer to have a chance should tell you who is better in a fight like this.

"a fight like this"? WTF are you talking about?

The match is H2H, gunfight, and melee. Bauer clearly has better H2H, gunfight, and melee feats than McClane, and thus wins. If I'm gimping any of McClane's H2H, gunfight, or CQB feats which prove more impressive than Bauer's, please list here, but as far as H2H, gunfights, and melee goes, Bauer has the better feats and thus wins. The fact that you are making up a bunch of nonsensical meaningless BS to try to get around this obvious logic says a lot about how much McBiased crap you are full of.