Russell Edgington vs. Link (TP)

Started by ScreamPaste71 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
They are resistance but it still hurts them. Gameplay mechanic. Their flesh can be pierced unless you can prove otherwise.

You're not a funny guy.


Volcanic. Explosion.
They don't really show blood in the game I believe he bled when the axe hit him.

Go ahead and prove this when we see Link endure much greater without harm.

Originally posted by The Scenario
[b]quanchi112, this post is indeed directed at you.

Now then, before I do anything in earnest, I think I want to establish what page everyone's on. Maybe it'll save some confusion and prevent wacky misunderstandings. So for that reason,

POP QUIZ

This will consist of a true/false section and a short answer section, of a few questions each. Anyone is free to take the quiz, as it is worth points. However, the points don't matter. Except you, quan, you are special and I just want to know where you stand so that I know exactly where we disagree.

Quiz 1 section 1: True or False. Please read the statements carefully and indicate whether a given statement is true or false by typing a T for true or an F for false.

1. Link has superhuman strength. (T/F)

2. The Iron Boots increase Link's arm strength. (T/F)

3. Link has superhuman durability. (T/F)

4. A car is heavier than Dangoro the Goron. (T/F)

5. The Sol infused Master Sword gives off magical sunlight and deals extra damage to dark creatures. (T/F)

6. Vampires in the True Blood series have a weakness to sunlight. (T/F)

Quiz 1 section 2: Short Answer. Please answer the following questions in complete sentences and give specific examples of your reasoning.

1. How strong is Russell Edgington? (You may give a specific number or a general strength class.)

2. How fast is Russell Edgington? (You may give a specific number or general speed class.)

3. Compare and contrast a feat vs. a portrayal.

Please place all completed quizzes face down at the front desk. [/B]


New page, Quan.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
New page, Quan.
When I quote that it disappears. Try again.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Numbers of times you have made me repost this: 2 and counting.

If you don't want to answer me, just say so and I'll stop wasting my time.

Quiz 1 section 1: True or False. Please read the statements carefully and indicate whether a given statement is true or false by typing a T for true or an F for false.

1. Link has superhuman strength. (T/F)

2. The Iron Boots increase Link's arm strength. (T/F)

3. Link has superhuman durability. (T/F)

4. A car is heavier than Dangoro the Goron. (T/F)

5. The Sol infused Master Sword gives off magical sunlight and deals extra damage to dark creatures. (T/F)

6. Vampires in the True Blood series have a weakness to sunlight. (T/F)

Quiz 1 section 2: Short Answer. Please answer the following questions in complete sentences and give specific examples of your reasoning.

1. How strong is Russell Edgington? (You may give a specific number or a general strength class.)

2. How fast is Russell Edgington? (You may give a specific number or general speed class.)

3. Compare and contrast a feat vs. a portrayal.

Please place all completed quizzes face down at the front desk.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Volcanic. Explosion.

Go ahead and prove this when we see Link endure much greater without harm.

Highly resistant but examples of lava hurting them.

All canon especially Bulbins men crushing him.

Quan, why are you avoiding the questions asked of you?

Originally posted by quanchi112
All canon especially Bulbins men crushing him.

Especially? There's nothing special about a 1/5 low showing before even gaining the Triforce of Courage. If anything, that one KO is the outlier, it's inconsistent with every other portrayal.

Also, please answer my questions? Do you you want to beg, O Great and Powerful Quanchi?

Hah. If I liked Trixie I'd be offended by the parallels.

Can't edit, just realized I screwed up the sentence.

"Also, please answer my questions? Do you want me to beg, O Great and Powerful Quanchi?"

There, fixed.

1/5?

Originally posted by BloodRain
1/5?

1 low showing to 5 good showings, makes the low showing an outlier.

Axe, Dangoro, cannon, cannon back down, iron boots on feet, hands on clawshot to pull the dragon down, Ganon stop/Ganondorf sword lock.

Edit: Check my location. 131

Ahh. Thats not as bad as the 0.5/16 we've got going for strength >_>

Down the vodka, spin around thrice, and you too will be taken to the land of 1/95'rd, where shit gets real son.

Originally posted by BloodRain
1/5?

In my example, I'm using:

The Bulblin KO
Tanking King Bulblin
Cannon to desert
Cannon to sky
Cannon from sky

Among those 5 durability showings, the Bulblin KO is the only low one. I'm just asking quanchi why a single low showing outweighs four high ones.

Originally posted by The Scenario
In my example, I'm using:

The Bulblin KO
Tanking King Bulblin
Cannon to desert
Cannon to sky
Cannon from sky

Among those 5 durability showings, the Bulblin KO is the only low one. I'm just asking quanchi why a single low showing outweighs four high ones.


-Throwing torso-sized rocks with ease.
-Crushing human-sized rocks. [Goron strength]
-Knocking around beasts larger than rhinos. [K.Bulbin strength]
-Throwing bulky, larger than human creatures (a Goron] high in the air. [Goron strength]
-Picking up said creature. [replicated by Gorons]
-Throwing said creature over your shoulder. [replicated by Gorons]
-Picking up a similar but much larger creature.
-Throwing said creature over your shoulder.
-Moving metal cages twice a humans height.
-Moving rock blocks twice a humans height.
-Moving metal blocks twice a humans height.
-Pulling up giant, thick metal chandeliers.
-Cutting through thick metal armour.
-Destroying armour with B&C.
-Shattering large volumes of ice.
-Knocking around a massive mass of ice.

Vs

-Not using that force to hold onto Epona's saddle.

Its a common trend it seems, good luck getting an answer for that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they wouldn't. The guy shrugs his shoulders and sends his victims into the air without even the least bit of strain. Russell rips through flesh easily and Link's flesh isn't as durable as you believe.

Bill 80kg. Car 680kg. White Rhino 2,500kg. How is flicking Bill or tipping the car above smacking around something bigger than a Rhino?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Calm down.
Admittance, interesting.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It did not matter as he was on his guard. Russell's movements were far too fast for Jason to even know what was going on.
Jason's visuals is the only thing that matters. Whats the difference between this and you running up to a cop without them looking at you? Are you somehow superhuman, or did you just sneak up? In your mind would all stealthy humans have superhuman speed?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dorf is canonically struck by arrows. Fact.
You are relying on a non canon instance and ignoring the only canon interaction with arrows. Bullets are faster than arrows. Bullets are also faster than swords or a slow bfr magic.
Not canon so irrelevant. A gameplay mechanic.
Refusing to answer a simple question. Fact. If Dorf does not have omnidirectional vision, getting hit by something he doesn't see means nothing. Fact. If you give me evidenceless repeated points, I'll participate in the circle.

It must be easy to blindly deny canon battles, in-build animation and the obvious dev intentions. Dorf can dodge arrows, so Dorf can dodge arrows. Dev >

Nothing to do with comparing Eric's speed to Ganondorf's Can't say you're not basing Eric's speed on a single instance.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are trying to love Russell now. Not going to happen. So now you admit damage, great.

He easily tossed a 2,000 year old vampire across the room. Who shot the nest again ?

If he doesn't put them on Russell plays pinball or slaps his head off.

When have I not been a Russ fan? Silly Quan. Take it that reading comprehension didn't go so well.. the crack was already there, and was 3ft below where she hit it. Her body did not cause any damage to the pillar. Basically: Throwing a person across a room, nothing more.

A bullet is a bullet, and arrow is an arrow, a net is a net. Who fires it does not change its speed. (And a human slap, and Bill's gun)

Russell weighs as much as Link (give or take), making the Boots unneeded.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is still hyperbole. Dispels magic. It dispels magic thus killing him. That's what happens so we see that is what it does not some no limits fallacy killing all evil sword.

Hyperbole cannot be proven. The MS proves this ability several times. Wait, were you just hung up on the 'destroy' part? No ones saying it one-shots everything evil. Just as no one can deny the stacks of descriptions, character statements (Dorf, the target, and Hylia, the creator, being the main two) and visual effects of the Blade proving that it does considerably more damage to evil.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Bulbins men, Zant ko, portrayal in the game, struggle with the horse, goat technique, etc.

You seem to be forgetting that Bulbin and Zant are your durability claims, not Link's strength ones. Also seem to have forgotten that the goat came before he got canonly stronger. Leaving you with a single instance where a few posts back you were positive it was Link using force against Epona..

Doesnt this just mean you're 'clinging' to a single debatable instance against 16 consistent ones? (I added throwing around torso-sized rocks pre-ToC and destroying suits of armour with B&C)

Even assuming you're right about Epona, that'd be the opposite of what you're doing with Eric. Eric has one instance for supersonic and several instances against, when Link has several instances for this strength and one instance against. You're saying Eric is and Link isn't.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Quan, why are you avoiding the questions asked of you?
What questions have I avoided ?

The ones Scene has been asking you for several pages, with Scream point it out for just as long.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What questions have I avoided ?

My quiz, man.

Please take the quiz. I will get on my knees if it pleases you, highness.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Originally posted by The Scenario
Numbers of times you have made me repost this: 2 and counting.

If you don't want to answer me, just say so and I'll stop wasting my time.

[b]Quiz 1 section 1: True or False. Please read the statements carefully and indicate whether a given statement is true or false by typing a T for true or an F for false.

1. Link has superhuman strength. (T/F)

2. The Iron Boots increase Link's arm strength. (T/F)

3. Link has superhuman durability. (T/F)

4. A car is heavier than Dangoro the Goron. (T/F)

5. The Sol infused Master Sword gives off magical sunlight and deals extra damage to dark creatures. (T/F)

6. Vampires in the True Blood series have a weakness to sunlight. (T/F)

Quiz 1 section 2: Short Answer. Please answer the following questions in complete sentences and give specific examples of your reasoning.

1. How strong is Russell Edgington? (You may give a specific number or a general strength class.)

2. How fast is Russell Edgington? (You may give a specific number or general speed class.)

3. Compare and contrast a feat vs. a portrayal.

Please place all completed quizzes face down at the front desk. [/B]


I will answer but not in true or false type fashion.

1. Superhuman to a degree.
2. Increase his weight.
3. No. It is inconsistent like any other character in fiction.
4. Speculation.
5. Yes.
6. Yes.

Part 2.

1. Superhuman strength. Vampire head slapping off feat, shoulder shrug, and spine ripping combat feats.

2. Very fast. Disarms Jason at 30 feet away or longer before he can even see him.

3. You need both. That's the point. You highlight only feats and ignore portrayal when it benefits you.

Originally posted by The Scenario
My quiz, man.

Please take the quiz. I will get on my knees if it pleases you, highness.

Already done, peasant.