The New 52... Will it last?

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Oh, look at that catty backhanded insult.

You gonna take that shit Q?

vin

Originally posted by Deadline
I really don't see what the beef with the Usain Bruce Lee comparison is. Seems quite fair to me.

It would be fair if it was at all accurate.

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
I thought that Johns "last of son of krypton" and "legion" stories were really good. The whole world of the supermen crossover was handled poorly but action came back with that saga that seemed to follow lex luthor after blackest night unfortunately, it lead into that saga with the multiple doomsdays 😘 . Wasnt there a doomsday made to kill other doomsdays in that saga?

I don't remember. Johns' stuff was good; I have no complaints about that.

Originally posted by Q99
Hah. That it's consistent with what's been shown between them prior is just coincidence, huh?

I mean, that's pretty much how it's gone in their fights prior to his run, and WW has a better track record against speedsters too.

You're too quick to leap to things being fandom bias.

Originally posted by -Pr-
vin

It would be fair if it was at all accurate.

I don't remember. Johns' stuff was good; I have no complaints about that.

Oh, that...

Yeah, I wasn't a huge fan of that arc.

That dialogue. Holy shit. 😂

With Convergence on the horizon, I can now officially say: "Called it!"

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You think Convergence will actually undo it? Considering the Darkseid War is coming out afterwards I have my doubts.

No, no. The DCnU will stay intact. I was more referring to DC resurrecting the pre-Flashpoint universes. I saw the potential for that years ago.

So, three and a half years. Smallest gap yet between continuity shifting events, isn't it?

The gap between IC and FC was around 3 years as well, iirc.

Originally posted by Galan007
The gap between IC and FC was around 3 years as well, iirc.

IC had a little continuity change (Jason Todd coming back aaand... I forget what else. I know it introduced time punching but is it sad that I don't remember any effects of it? Definitely smaller than Zero Hour's effects), but I don't think Final Crisis had any at all, I think it's not until Flashpoint that you got a continuity shift.

If anything there is only new 52 now. Pre crisis and post crisis eras are forever gone and the new multiverse is just an evolved version of previous earths.

Originally posted by Q99
IC had a little continuity change (Jason Todd coming back aaand... I forget what else. I know it introduced time punching but is it sad that I don't remember any effects of it? Definitely smaller than Zero Hour's effects), but I don't think Final Crisis had any at all, I think it's not until Flashpoint that you got a continuity shift.

^ No. Well actually, with Convergence maybe, but I didn't read into that at all. But for the New 52 universe only those didn't happen.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Did Identity Crisis or Infinite Crisis even happen now?

And according to Brainiac himself, the actions of SBP(during IC) and Mr. Mind(during 52) are what helped transform him into the Godlike entity he was during Convergence:
http://i.imgur.com/7PormZW.jpg
So essentially, without their 'help' he wouldn't have evolved to his current state/power/intellect, and as such, likely wouldn't have been able to set forth the events which undid COIE.

Paradox.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Did Identity Crisis or Infinite Crisis even happen now?

From my understanding, yes and no. For some universes (the 52), the events played out like they did. But for others, CoIE did not happen and so they are existing in a pre-crisis state.

-Action Comics #976

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Nice to see Superman doing the impossible again! Here is a interview with Dan Jurgens and Peter J. Tomasi, done by Comics Alliance.

http://comicsalliance.com/superman-reborn-exclusive-interview/

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