Superman vs Avengers

Started by JakeTheBank12 pages
Originally posted by abhilegend
It gets the job done. You can sense bullets coming your way and move out of the way? He BFRed an entire planet to a different dimension. No.

That doesn't really make sense? By this line of logic, Batman can resist the Molecule Man by just avoiding him because it "gets the job done". If Superman actually resisted forced teleportation via some crazy application of heat vision or something, that'd make (more) sense, not just avoiding the attack/attempt which is generally the best case to "resisting" every offensive maneuver thrown your way. And can Superman sense magical warps?

Already mentioned in the thread. Cool.

EDIT: Caught your edit concerning keeping warps open with his bare hands, which is a better answer than just staying away from the warp. 👆 Can you elaborate on the context?

Originally posted by cdtm
True, but it's a factor.

Even in the very early Byrne days, he was constantly on the move. The Levitz Legion couldn't even tell it was Superman instead of Superboy, because his constant high speed movement kept them from seeing more than a red and blue blur. (Also for the record, it's established he's near constantly using his speed to keep photographers from getting a good picture of him, and someone realizing Superman and Clark Kent are the same.)

Which isn't really resisting the warp, is it?

Moving out of harm's way and staying out of harm's way is a factor in every fight ever for the most part. That goes without saying.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That doesn't really make sense? By this line of logic, Batman can resist the Molecule Man by just avoiding him because it "gets the job done". If Superman actually resisted forced teleportation via some crazy application of heat vision or something, that'd make (more) sense, not just avoiding the attack/attempt which is generally the best case to "resisting" every offensive maneuver thrown your way. And can Superman sense magical warps?

Already mentioned in the thread. Cool.

EDIT: Caught your edit concerning keeping warps open with his bare hands, which is a better answer than just staying away from the warp. 👆 Can you elaborate on the context?


No context. One time he held open a portal in Worlds Collide and other time in Supergirl 23.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Does holding open portals/warps by bare hands counts?

I don't why not, tbh. It gives him a chance, a slim one if he's rarely done it, but a slim one. Of course, Thor's teleportation has been performed via energy blasts, lightning, tears/warps in space, and via flashes of energy, so it depends on what kind of BFR Thor goes for ultimately.

What kind of warps/portals were they?

Originally posted by abhilegend
No context. One time he held open a portal in Worlds Collide and other time in Supergirl 23.

If Thor goes for the portal type of teleportation.The scan that I showed was Thor doing BFR w/o spinning Mjolnir and openning portals.He did a BFR in an instant.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Okay?

Even so, Thor can BFR people easier and more efficiently than Superman can, especially a physical peer in the form of Hulk.

That's about as likely and relevant to bring to a fight as Thor opening a rift to the sun and bombarding someone with solar energy, though. He's done it panel, sure, but it holds no real significance in a fight. Of course, the flood gates were already burst open for Kal when people argued Mjolnir doing stupid shit it doesn't normally do.

Okay what?

You can make that argument if you're talking about Superman going at normal speed. Super speed? Well I guess more easily and efficiently, but Superman would be able to pull it off before Thor even realized what was going on.

And the point was more for Superman theoretically can escape a dimensional dump attempt.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
lol are you serious, professor phucking delta over here. Who died and made u grammar king? Im sorry noone did so please stfu.

I'm sorry. I guess somehow it's my fault that you attempted to insult someone, then came-out looking like a complete and utter retard by making that mistake(it being common isn't an excuse). Also, I guess it's my fault that you had to have others explain it to you, instead of being aware enough to figure-out where you wronged and what I meant. It's my fault that others knew what I meant but you needed detailed explanations.

My apologies, I'll try not to do whatever I did to drop your reading comprehension down to first-grade level again.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I don't why not, tbh. It gives him a chance, a slim one if he's rarely done it, but a slim one. Of course, Thor's teleportation has been performed via energy blasts, lightning, tears/warps in space, and via flashes of energy, so it depends on what kind of BFR Thor goes for ultimately.

What kind of warps/portals were they?


I forgot, he can also stop dimensional teleportation by HV.

Thor can BFR without a nice portal. Even with a damaged Mjolnir he teleported cap and tony with a flash of light.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I forgot, he can also stop dimensional teleportation by HV.

Scans? That'd be cool to see.

Originally posted by Igniz
If Thor goes for the portal type of teleportation.The scan that I showed was Thor doing BFR w/o spinning Mjolnir and openning portals.He did a BFR in an instant.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I forgot, he can also stop dimensional teleportation by HV.

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Originally posted by Delta1938
Scans? That'd be cool to see.

Scans don't exist because it never happened.

And abhi, please don't post hv blocking omega beams.

Originally posted by Stoic
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Also @ abhi

Originally posted by Igniz
People seems to be under the impression that Thor needs to spin Mjolnir in order to BFR people.Here, Thor seems to have done it instantaneously w/o spinning Mjolnir.

http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Avengersannual014.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Avengersannual015.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Avengersannual016.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Avengersannual017.jpg

Originally posted by Delta1938
Scans? That'd be cool to see.

Its from Superman v2 4 when he stops bloodsport teleporting his weapons. I don't have scans atm.
Originally posted by Igniz
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Also @ abhi


I know that thor can teleport to other places without spinning mjolnir. Doesn't matter though, superman just has to ionise the air.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Scans? That'd be cool to see.

Here's one of sealing a dimensional portal:

that gets more hilarious every time i see it. what were his beams actually striking? they should blow up in his face once they escape his eyes

Originally posted by abhilegend
I know that thor can teleport to other places without spinning mjolnir. Doesn't matter though, superman just has to ionise the air.

How would Superman know that Thor is about to teleport him?And does the ionizing the air trick work on teleportation that is mystical in nature?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
that gets more hilarious every time i see it. what were his beams actually striking? they should blow up in his face once they escape his eyes

Heh.. tbh, I don't even like Byrnes run.

Wish they let Simonson do it.

Here's him holding open a portal by bare hands
http://s647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/FIGHTING%20PORTALS%20TO%20ANOTHER%20REALITY/?action=view&current=pic007.jpg
http://s647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/FIGHTING%20PORTALS%20TO%20ANOTHER%20REALITY/?action=view&current=pic008.jpg
http://s647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/FIGHTING%20PORTALS%20TO%20ANOTHER%20REALITY/?action=view&current=pic009.jpg

Originally posted by Igniz
How would Superman know that Thor is about to teleport him?

Well, you know Thor. He'll probably say something like:

"THOU ART POWERFUL FOR A MORTAL, BUT WITNESS THY GODLY POWER, AS MJOLNIR RIPS ASUNDER TIME AND SPACE ITSELF!"