Originally posted by Igniz
How would Superman know that Thor is about to teleport him?And does the ionizing the air trick work on teleportation that is mystical in nature?
Originally posted by cdtm
Well, you know Thor. He'll probably say something like:"THOU ART POWERFUL FOR A MORTAL, BUT WITNESS THY GODLY POWER, AS MJOLNIR RIPS ASUNDER TIME AND SPACE ITSELF!"
My response to this.
Originally posted by Igniz
People seems to be under the impression that Thor needs to spin Mjolnir in order to BFR people.Here, Thor seems to have done it instantaneously w/o spinning Mjolnir.http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Avengersannual014.jpg
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Originally posted by Stoic
If Thor bfr's Superman, he wouldn't be holding onto anything, he would just go away. When the Avengers fought Wonder Man, and his team, Thor sent them away without any visible portal, they just vanished.
Exactly 👆
Originally posted by abhilegend
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That's called a hyperbole unless you think that franklin richards or MJJ can't stop hulk too. Numerous heroes have been called unstoppable including superman.
Wait a minute. Are those scans even canon to what happened? That didnt happen at all.
Namor wasnt the only one to say Hulk was unstoppable during WWH.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its not instantenous by any means. Superman has also felt teleportation by eradicator before it happened. Why not? It stops every energy from entering the area. Superman depowered a character instantly who absorbed ambient energies by ionising the air around it.
So Superman ionizing the air would prevent potent mystical extra-dimensional energies from being accessed?
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It's impossible to tell what Thor's doing though, with the extreme close up shot and cutaways.
Hammer's definitely glowing though, so there's some sort of warning "warm up" happening there.
And besides, they were stationary.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
As I said, it depends on the nature of Thor's BFR.He's done it through portals/tears in space, tornados, lightning, energy blasts, flashes of light, etc.
Originally posted by Stoic
If Thor bfr's Superman, he wouldn't be holding onto anything, he would just go away. When the Avengers fought Wonder Man, and his team, Thor sent them away without any visible portal, they just vanished.
Not that it matters, with superman's speed there is almost nowhere thor can BFR him where he can't return. He's crossed more than 3/4th of universe in seconds.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not if superman ionises the air around.313Not that it matters, with superman's speed there is almost nowhere thor can BFR him where he can't return. He's crossed more than 3/4th of universe in seconds.
As long as he doesn't stand and monologue, and stays on the move (As he has in numerous fights), it shouldn't even be a problem.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its from Superman v2 4 when he stops bloodsport teleporting his weapons. I don't have scans atm.
I know that thor can teleport to other places without spinning mjolnir. Doesn't matter though, superman just has to ionise the air.
Oh that. That was cool, although I dunno if it'd apply to Thor since his is magick.
Originally posted by Stoic
If Thor bfr's Superman, he wouldn't be holding onto anything, he would just go away. When the Avengers fought Wonder Man, and his team, Thor sent them away without any visible portal, they just vanished.
If you're talking about what I think you are, Thor warped space around and they ran into it. A little different than just "blinking" someone somewhere else. I could be misremembering, but I think Superman's seen stuff similar to that with his senses.
Note, I'm simply talking about this particular example, not other stuff Thor's done.
Also, Stoic, did my instructions work for Photobucket?
Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute. Are those scans even canon to what happened? That didnt happen at all.Namor wasnt the only one to say Hulk was unstoppable during WWH.
He isn't unstoppable by any mean though.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So Superman ionizing the air would prevent potent mystical extra-dimensional energies from being accessed?
What if he BFR's him to another dimension? Is he going to come back from that? I also don't see how you could claim that because he ionizes the air that it would somehow stop Thor from mystically sending him away anyways. What proof do you have that Superman could override a mystical exile? There is more evidence to suggest that Thor would be successful than not.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its not instantenous by any means. Superman has also felt teleportation by eradicator before it happened. Why not? It stops every energy from entering the area. Superman depowered a character instantly who absorbed ambient energies by ionising the air around it.
This argument belongs in the same category if Superman can withstand Ghost Rider's sustained hellfire.The Superman side will bring up the Superman withstanding Etrigan's hellfire.
People assumed that hellfire in DC is the same in Marvel.And it seems Teleportation by mystical means is also assumed the same as Technological means 😬
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yep. Its a direct demonstration by Kismet.He isn't unstoppable by any mean though.
It prevented extra-dimensional energies from teleportation. In MU magic is just another form of energy as Black Panther showed against Mephisto.
It didn't happen though. Thats like me using the showing of Juggernaut where Strange showed Jugs a mental picture of what Jugs would do if he was to let loose. It showed Juggernaut killing every being on the planet and standing above the dead bodies of the most powerful beings in MU. Jugs is powerful but not that powerful and it isn't canon to Juggernaut, its just a story just like Hulk had a story told of him killing every being on the planet and actually showed it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not if superman ionises the air around.313Not that it matters, with superman's speed there is almost nowhere thor can BFR him where he can't return. He's crossed more than 3/4th of universe in seconds.
So Superman could return from Limbo, the Negative Zone, Mephisto's Hell, Asgard or one its adjoining realms or a desolate and barren void back to the battle field in moments and do this reliably and consistently enough to prevent Thor from getting a BFR victory on Superman?
