Superman vs Avengers

Originally posted by abhilegend
Namor didn't want to fight hulk as he was an old friend. Which heralds hulk thrashed as a team? Hulk has always been the strongest guy on marvel earth, that's what he does. Unfortunately superman isn't from marvel. Superman has wrecked teams like LOSH, JLA, JSA, Shadow Cabinet, Imperiex Probes and was shown killing hal jordan, wonder woman, captain marvel, flash, supergirl and others when he renounced his humanity by Kismet.

Superman didn't wreck a team of Heralds, don't know why you keep saying that.

If Hulk went to DC, he would be the strongest there as well.

Namor didn't say he was the strongest, Namor said NO FORCE ON EARTH WOULD STOP HIM. Learn the difference.

Originally posted by Delta1938
You're assuming they'd have the chance to do that while simultaneously dealing with vertigo and being punched in the face.

Superman doesn't even need to get the KO, too. The Op didn't preclude battlefield removal.

Take Hulk. Supes tries KOing Hulk at first, and if that fails.. He gets rid of him.

Throws him into orbit or something.

Or, he could just skip the beatdown and go right for BFR. Done it before.. Ask Neutron.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman didn't wreck a team of Heralds, don't know why you keep saying that.

If Hulk went to DC, he would be the strongest there as well.

Namor didn't say he was the strongest, Namor said NO FORCE ON EARTH WOULD STOP HIM. Learn the difference.

Superman has wrecked teams of heralds, yes.

lol, no.

Originally posted by cdtm
Superman doesn't even need to get the KO, too. The Op didn't preclude battlefield removal.

In which case, Supes tries KOing Hulk at first, and if that fails.. He gets rid of him.

Throws him into orbit or something.

In that case, it's more likely Thor BFRs Superman than Superman manages to successfully BFR Hulk.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
In that case, it's more likely Thor BFRs Superman than Superman manages to successfully BFR Hulk.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
In that case, it's more likely Thor BFRs Superman than Superman manages to successfully BFR Hulk.

Not given Supes substantial combat speed edge over Thor.

And the entire team.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Liar

Not really?

Thor can BFR Superman easier than Superman can forcibly throw/punch Hulk against his own will out of orbit. Hulk can attempt to resist the kinetic force/struggle against Superman's physicality with his own. Superman, however, can't resist a BFR from Mjolnir.

Originally posted by cdtm
Not given Supes substantial combat speed edge over Thor.

And the entire team.

Wasn't factoring in speed but rather comparing the difficulty between the two tasks.

I don't see Superman becoming intangible and untouchable forum god Kal-El, but seeing as how unlikely scenarios/strategies got brought up in favor for the Avengers (which I disagree with), it was only a matter of time before the other shoe got dropped for Kal with a vengeance (which I also disagree with).

Originally posted by Delta1938

Irony.

Wtf is that suppose to mean

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not really?

Thor can BFR Superman easier than Superman can forcibly throw/punch Hulk against his own will out of orbit. Hulk can attempt to resist the kinetic force/struggle against Superman's physicality with own. Superman, however, can't resist a BFR from Mjolnir.

Easier?

Is that why Thor needed the Power Pack to run interference, while he prepared to 'port Juggernaut away? Or why Nefaria was able to stuff his battlefield removal attempt?

And again, remember that Supes can uppercut Hulk, before Hulk knows he moved. Can't resist a sucker punch, essentially..

Originally posted by carver9
Superman didn't wreck a team of Heralds, don't know why you keep saying that.

If Hulk went to DC, he would be the strongest there as well.

Namor didn't say he was the strongest, Namor said NO FORCE ON EARTH WOULD STOP HIM. Learn the difference.

You're correct he hasn't in the sense that he hasn't faced a team of opponents Galactus has empowered. If you go by "Herald" as a term(which I hate) then you are incorrect. That team Abhi pointed-out included Captain Atom, a Green Lantern, Power Girl and Major Force. And that was one of several examples.

And no, Hulk would not be the strongest in DC. New Earth Superman's feats of strength>Hulk's. That's a fact.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not really?

Thor can BFR Superman easier than Superman can forcibly throw/punch Hulk against his own will out of orbit. Hulk can attempt to resist the kinetic force/struggle against Superman's physicality with his own. Superman, however, can't resist a BFR from Mjolnir.

Even at normal speed, how exactly would he resist if Superman simply uppercuts him? And that's assuming Superman goes at normal speed.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Wtf is that suppose to mean

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not really?

Thor can BFR Superman easier than Superman can forcibly throw/punch Hulk against his own will out of orbit. Hulk can attempt to resist the kinetic force/struggle against Superman's physicality with his own. Superman, however, can't resist a BFR from Mjolnir.

Originally posted by cdtm
Easier?

Is that why Thor needed the Power Pack to run interference, while he prepared to 'port Juggernaut away? Or why Nefaria was able to stuff his battlefield removal attempt?

And again, remember that Supes can uppercut Hulk, before Hulk knows he moved. Can't resist a sucker punch, essentially..

😐

Yeah, if you want to point out two instances of his teleportation failing or needing build up over the considerable times he's done it nigh instantly and without resistance as evidence to why Superman couldn't be BFRed by Mjolnir easier, go for it.

Durability and resistance to physical damage can be resisted without actually trying, though.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Wtf is that suppose to mean

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Your an idiot

http://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/youre_your.htm

Originally posted by Delta1938
Even at normal speed, how exactly would he resist if Superman simply uppercuts him? And that's assuming Superman goes at normal speed.

Hulk's durability and general physicality gives him considerable resitance to the likes of being moved by kinetic force and the like, just like any superstrong/supertough guy. Shits on physics, but what doesn't in comics? Superman could certainly budge him, sure, but it's not a sure thing he could easily send him in outer space or toss him if Hulk didn't feel like going.

That's common sense.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
😐

Yeah, if you want to point out two instances of his teleportation failing or needing build up over the considerable times he's done it nigh instantly and without resistance as evidence to why Superman couldn't be BFRed by Mjolnir easier, go for it.

Durability and resistance to physical damage can be resisted without actually trying, though.

I'm just saying, at best, Thor can perform a bfr about "as easy" as it takes to knock someone away. He still has to make a gesture, at least, like tapping his hammer to the floor or spinning it.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Why so serious?

Can't be sure these days, especially in these type of threads.

In any case, considering Superman's means of BFR, physically overpowering Hulk or physically dealing enough damage to forcibly move him a considerable distance can be resisted to a degree by Hulk's own physical might - and only a troll or someone misinformed would argue against Hulk standing a chance of doing so - whereas Mjolnir's spatial warping/teleportation can't be conventionally resisted by any power Superman has, I'm not sure how anyone can argue against Thor being able to BFR Superman easier than Superman BFRing Hulk.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hulk's durability and general physicality gives him considerable resitance to the likes of being moved by kinetic force and the like, just like any superstrong/supertough guy. Shits on physics, but what doesn't in comics? Superman could certainly budge him, sure, but it's not a sure thing he could easily send him in outer space or toss him if Hulk didn't feel like going.

That's common sense.

Hulks been knocked away enough times, in all his recent incarnations, that I think Supes should be able to send him flying.

But even if I agree he could not, there's other ways. He's grabbed characters by the leg, for example, and thrown them. Lobo, Blue Beetle (Jamie), and Doomsday to name a few.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman didn't wreck a team of Heralds, don't know why you keep saying that.

If Hulk went to DC, he would be the strongest there as well.

Namor didn't say he was the strongest, Namor said NO FORCE ON EARTH WOULD STOP HIM. Learn the difference.

Nope.

That's called a hyperbole unless you think that franklin richards or MJJ can't stop hulk too. Numerous heroes have been called unstoppable including superman.