Iron Man 3 vs Man of Steel

Started by DARTH POWER39 pages

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Can anyone give me a reboot of a franchise that got over 800 million? Besides Amazing Spiderman, nothing comes close. Also, Spiderman is very popular due to the success of the trilogy. Even then, Spiderman did poorly in Domestic Numbers. It only pulled nicely on Overseas.

Superman is as big a name as Spiderman. So it does have the potential for a successful reboot. And they've given it some time since the last Superman film- 7 years. And 35 years since the last Origin story.

Whilst Spiderman rebooted with a new origin story only 5 years after the last film and only 10 years after the last origin story.

The way I see it is if Superman Returns could make almost 400mill back in 2006, then MOS should easily surpass 500mill today.

And if it's as good as it looks 700mill+ won't be impossible. Not at all.
Heck nowadays we can take previously not well known heroes like Thor and make 450mill as long as it's a good film.

But yes IM3 has more backing to it.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Superman is as big a name as Spiderman. So it does have the potential for a successful reboot. And they've given it some time since the last Superman film- 7 years. And 35 years since the last Origin story.

Whilst Spiderman rebooted with a new origin story only 5 years after the last film and only 10 years after the last origin story.

The way I see it is if Superman Returns could make almost 400mill back in 2006, then MOS should easily surpass 500mill today.

And if it's as good as it looks 700mill+ won't be impossible. Not at all.
Heck nowadays we can take previously not well known heroes like Thor and make 450mill as long as it's a good film.

But yes IM3 has more backing to it.


The thing is Superman return only made 400 despite his big name. Also, Superman is a known name and big, but as far as popularity goes, it is not close to Spiderman, Ironman..etc. Marvel as well as Fox studio have marketed their products. Also, Amazing Spiderman did well overseas, where he is popular and it had a very very successful trilogy prior to reboot. Superman on the other hand has a terrible record. Superman 2-4 and returns were received pretty badly. Marketing thus far as been decent at best.

As far as Thor and Captain America go, they weren't as successful. However, Marvel knew it would pay off in DvD sales and through the release of Avengers.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The thing is Superman return only made 400 despite his big name.

I would suggest it made 400mill because of it's name. And despite the fact that it was a very boring and disappointing movie.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Also, Superman is a known name and big, but as far as popularity goes, it is not close to Spiderman, Ironman..etc.

Iron man is popular due to a damn good movie and acting. That's what will make Superman popular again on the big screen.

Also Smallville lasting 10 years on the small screen says to me that there is still that craving for Superman.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Marvel as well as Fox studio have marketed their products. Also, Amazing Spiderman did well overseas, where he is popular and it had a very very successful trilogy prior to reboot. Superman on the other hand has a terrible record. Superman 2-4 and returns were received pretty badly. Marketing thus far as been decent at best.

That successful Spiderman trilogy ended with an awful awful movie. I don't think Superman 2 was received badly at all. It's one of my all time favorite superhero movies.

Anyway doesn't matter because Batman Returns, Forever and Robin were recieved very badly. That didn't stop Nolan's making Batman(another big name) the biggest Solo Superhero franchise.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
As far as Thor and Captain America go, they weren't as successful. However, Marvel knew it would pay off in DvD sales and through the release of Avengers.

Thor did really well considering he wasn't previously anywhere near as popular or well known as the Big 3: Superman, Spider-Man and Batman.

That shows there is still that huge demand for Superhero movies as long as they're Good Movies. That and the mega success of Avengers.

So a name like Superman still has massive potential.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The thing is Superman return only made 400 despite his big name. Also, Superman is a known name and big, but as far as popularity goes, it is not close to Spiderman, Ironman..etc.

Returns did not have 3D, a boost from inflation, and was a shitty movie. The fact that it still made nearly 400 mil shows just how big of an influence the Superman name has.

Originally posted by ares834
Returns did not have 3D, a boost from inflation, and was a shitty movie. The fact that it still made nearly 400 mil shows just how big of an influence the Superman name has.

Plus it has Nolan's name attached to it.

Early word is that IM3 already made 195 million overseas. That is pretty good imo, It's starting to look like IM3 will gross more than MOS.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Early word is that IM3 already made 195 million overseas. That is pretty good imo, It's starting to look like IM3 will gross more than MOS.

I've always thought that IM 3 would make a little more, however it's a little early. MOS is already on peoples most anticipated movie and the marketing push has barely begun.

It's looking like it'll make alot more, maybe even 1 billion total. MOS is projected to hit 650 million according to Boxoffice mojo, which is pretty good.

Going back and looking Spider-Man 3 had a 230 million opening weekend back in 2007 on the overseas market.

Spider-man 3 was actually the biggest grossing of all 3 Spider-man movies.

Just shows some movies will make shit loads no matter what.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Early word is that IM3 already made 195 million overseas. That is pretty good imo, It's starting to look like IM3 will gross more than MOS.

TBH, I thought there would be no doubt. Iron Man 1 and 2 both made money hand over fist. With the boost from Avengers, IM 3 was almost guaranteed to make a ton of money.

I don't think anyone seriously believed Man of Steel could match Iron Man 3 in Box Office numbers. If they did, it was self-delusion. That being said I hope Man of Steel is a great and successful movie. Kind of sucks that DC is so far behind Marvel in the movie department.

Well, I think the Zack Snyder/Chris Nolan team up is going to help this movie a TON. Don't underestimate what a good director/producer can do for a film.

Still, I think Iron Man will probably still take the prize, unless Superman just blows people away. It's going to have to be an amazing movie to get rid of the bad taste Superman Returns left in peoples' minds.

MOS is leading with 27% in this poll, so we'll see how that translates to the box office. Will it be enough to get people out of their chair to go see it? We'll know soon.

MOS is also leading with 46 % at Comingsoon.

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/25-most-anticipated-movies-summer-2013-165010353.html?page=5

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't think anyone seriously believed Man of Steel could match Iron Man 3 in Box Office numbers. If they did, it was self-delusion. That being said I hope Man of Steel is a great and successful movie. Kind of sucks that DC is so far behind Marvel in the movie department.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Well, I think the Zack Snyder/Chris Nolan team up is going to help this movie a TON. Don't underestimate what a good director/producer can do for a film.

Still, I think Iron Man will probably still take the prize, unless Superman just blows people away. It's going to have to be an amazing movie to get rid of the bad taste Superman Returns left in peoples' minds.

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Originally posted by Golgo13
MOS is leading with 27% in this poll, so we'll see how that translates to the box office. Will it be enough to get people out of their chair to go see it? We'll know soon.

MOS is also leading with 46 % at Comingsoon.

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/25-most-anticipated-movies-summer-2013-165010353.html?page=5

That is kinda suprising. I would have guessed Iron Man 3 would have a healthy lead.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
That is kinda suprising. I would have guessed Iron Man 3 would have a healthy lead.

the poll doesn't mean anything.. wat will count will be the box office returns

Originally posted by juggernaut74
That is kinda suprising. I would have guessed Iron Man 3 would have a healthy lead.

Except that poll is mutually exclusive. Just because people want to see MOS over IM doesn't mean those same people aren't going to go see IM as well.

IM3 is leading on RT though. The statistics are much better since the data isn't mutually exclusive.

118,345 want to see IM3
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/iron_man_3/

81,641 want to see MOS
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_man_of_steel/

So IM3 has 36,704 (45%) more audience who want to see it.

Not really, no. The "Want to see" polls on RT continue to grow up to their release... So, with IM3, being released in America this week it's unsurprising it would currently hold a commanding lead.

Now, with that said, I do think that IM3 appeals to a far larger range than MoS.

Whichever makes more money, it's all about the quality. One guy supposedly has already seen MOS. New king of super hero movie?

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/SuperheroStation/news/?a=78525

Looks to be awesome. Hope it's true.