Originally posted by abhilegend
Cut, yes. Stabbed through shoulder like knife through butter? I'd like to see some examples.
Thanos doesn't have much piercing durability either. A random alien cut him open in Cosmic Powers Unlimited and he went out of his way to avoid a hit by Morg's axe, which in the same issue didn't cut even Terrax.
You'd like to know of all of the guys that Wolverine has stabbed or cut? Go to his respect thread, and you will find more than you are looking for.
As for the Thanos attack. Do you know how strong or tough the substance was that cut him? I get it you hate Gladiator. Most likely because he is the closest clone of you favorite character.
Originally posted by Stoic
And Superman was just cut by a character with zero feats, and KO'd while retaining a concussion from being back handed into the moon, by a shot that was only capable of creating a crater. Who sucks again? Yeah so let's get to the low-balling that you seem so intent on bringing up.What part of Variable power levels do you not get? Should I explain the word variable to you? Penance took on a far more powerful character than Namor (Nova Prime) and was not KO'd when he was at his best. You as usual bring up the worst to make a point but end up doing the same mess that you always do, which is low-ball the mess out of characters that you dislike. Your analogy of the Masterson vs Gladiator fight is irrelevant, he used the Living Lightning, which stunned Gladiator (not KO'd Gladiator) and jumped on him with the opportunity given him, and KO'd him with his hammer. Simon was done for, and could no longer defend himself. Namor is an accomplished warrior, and he won the fight, but this does not mean that he is stronger than Wonder Man, because he isn't.
Originally posted by Stoic
You'd like to know of all of the guys that Wolverine has stabbed or cut? Go to his respect thread, and you will find more than you are looking for.As for the Thanos attack. Do you know how strong or tough the substance was that cut him? I get it you hate Gladiator. Most likely because he is the closest clone of you favorite character.
Yeah, not very tough. I don't hate gladiator, I'm just amused at the antics of his fans.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not talking about DCnU superman. Nova prime is FAR more powerful than namor? Since when? So masterson can't call lightning down? He was stunned by lightning, pathetic. He didn't just ko gladiator, he nearly killed him. He still wasn't koed after a blitz by gladiator. Namor was beating Ares with simon's body. If that tells you he's weaker than simon, lulz.
I never really much cared about what you were talking about. Superman was given a huge beating by an alien with zero feats, and back handed like a flea, and he was severely injured by an impact that was only capable of making a crater. This is me low-balling your boy. You see how this works? You see what you're doing?
Namor is a better fighter who happens to be able to lift huge amounts of weight, so how hard would it be for him to lift up a 250 lb man and batter another guy with him? This does not mean that he is stronger. The Hulk beat the hell out of the Abomination, and the Abomination was 2x his base strength. These things happen all of the time in comics, but it does not mean that the guy who wins is stronger.
Should we continue with the red herrings, and strawmen tactics, or are you claiming that Namor would defeat Gladiator as well, because I really can't see the correlation here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not talking about DCnU superman. Nova prime is FAR more powerful than namor? Since when? So masterson can't call lightning down? He was stunned by lightning, pathetic. He didn't just ko gladiator, he nearly killed him. He still wasn't koed after a blitz by gladiator. Namor was beating Ares with simon's body. If that tells you he's weaker than simon, lulz.
You do know after Masterson hammer shots, Gladiator was waking up in the next oanel right? That doesn't sound like someone near death to me.
Nova Prime would kill Namor, this is not really a question. Gladiator would kill him as well.
How about this approach Abhi, because TBH I'm getting tired of the games that children play. How about you prove that Black Adam is faster, stronger, more durable, and more variable than a non jobbing Gladiator instead of bringing up irrelevant topics that move further away from the topic?
Originally posted by Stoic
I never really much cared about what you were talking about. Superman was given a huge beating by an alien with zero feats, and back handed like a flea, and he was severely injured by an impact that was only capable of making a crater. This is me low-balling your boy. You see how this works? You see what you're doing?Namor is a better fighter who happens to be able to lift huge amounts of weight, so how hard would it be for him to lift up a 250 lb man and batter another guy with him? This does not mean that he is stronger. The Hulk beat the hell out of the Abomination, and the Abomination was 2x his base strength. These things happen all of the time in comics, but it does not mean that the guy who wins is stronger.
Should we continue with the red herrings, and strawmen tactics, or are you claiming that Namor would defeat Gladiator as well, because I really can't see the correlation here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You can lowball DCnU superman all you want, see if I care. Hahahaha, this is another of "stoic logic 101". You are killing me here. Hulk got beat to nearly death in the first fight and then reduced abom's strength to half in the next fight. Its clear you are just throwing shit at a wall at this point, hoping something sticks. Lulz at your red herrings quip, you are the one who is harping about how everyone is hating gladiator and how amazing non-jobbing gladiator like the mythical fully confident gladiator is. Give it a rest.
Yeah I know that I'm throwing shit at a wall, I knew this before you even finished your second post on the topic.
I take your opinion as you not being able to prove that Teth is faster, stronger, more durable, or as variable as Gladiator. I accept your concession. It's good to see how pissy you get when people sink to your level. The only way that you are capable of debating is by using one characters best while low balling the one that you dislike. -Pr- even warned you about this but can you stop? Not a chance. Run along.
Originally posted by carver9
You do know after Masterson hammer shots, Gladiator was waking up in the next oanel right? That doesn't sound like someone near death to me.
Originally posted by Stoic
Nova Prime would kill Namor, this is not really a question. Gladiator would kill him as well.How about this approach Abhi, because TBH I'm getting tired of the games that children play. How about you prove that Black Adam is faster, stronger, more durable, and more variable than a non jobbing Gladiator instead of bringing up irrelevant topics that move further away from the topic?
Originally posted by Stoic
Yeah I know that I'm throwing shit at a wall, I knew this before you even finished your second post on the topic.I take your opinion as you not being able to prove that Teth is faster, stronger, more durable, or as variable as Gladiator. I accept your concession. It's good to see how pissy you get when people sink to your level. The only way that you are capable of debating is by using one characters best while low balling the one that you dislike. -Pr- even warned you about this but can you stop? Not a chance. Run along.
Originally posted by abhilegend
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Classic stoic, just classic. What exactly is non-jobbing gladiator?
His capabilities are what I asked you a while ago. you however don't seem to understand that most of the times when Gladiator gets worked by a guy that has no business wrecking him that the writer is indirectly trying to pin the loss to Superman.
What I am asking you is to prove that Black Adam is stronger, faster, more durable, and is overall more variable in terms of power set in comparison to Gladiator. While making sense of how he would beat him to a point that would resemble a stomp. Also keep in mind that Teth in the past has had his face beaten in badly enough to close one of his eyes.
Also explain his inability to KO Hawkman who is a pretty strong character but is not a top tier without his items. Was it PIS?
Also If Black Adam and Gladiator locked up in a test of strength, what would stop Gladiator, or any character with heat ray vision, or laser vision from zapping him in the eyes, and pummeling him into a KO'd condition?
Now I'm hoping that before you answer these questions you might want to actually go back and look at Gladiator's speed feats, strength feats, planet destroying destructive power feats, and general power set.
Originally posted by Stoic
His capabilities are what I asked you a while ago. you however don't seem to understand that most of the times when Gladiator gets worked by a guy that has no business wrecking him that the writer is indirectly trying to pin the loss to Superman.What I am asking you is to prove that Black Adam is stronger, faster, more durable, and is overall more variable in terms of power set in comparison to Gladiator. While making sense of how he would beat him to a point that would resemble a stomp. Also keep in mind that Teth in the past has had his face beaten in badly enough to close one of his eyes.
Also explain his inability to KO Hawkman who is a pretty strong character but is not a top tier without his items. Was it PIS?
Also If Black Adam and Gladiator locked up in a test of strength, what would stop Gladiator, or any character with heat ray vision, or laser vision from zapping him in the eyes, and pummeling him into a KO'd condition?
Now I'm hoping that before you answer these questions you might want to actually go back and look at Gladiator's speed feats, strength feats, planet destroying destructive power feats, and general power set.
Like martian manhunter tried and got twoshotted for his troubles? Adam has ridiculous durability even for a top tier.
Cosmic cheese. Drax ripped apart a star and destroyed a planet with thanos, mar-vell tanked his shots without budging in the same arc.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Like who? Your conspiracy theory falls apart when we examine the actual superman stories from marvel like Superman and Spider-man. Superman is one of the most beloved characters in both DC and marvel and Tom Brevoort once lamented that how DC can't use his potential like if they had him. Adam has better battle records than gladiator in every area you named. Its not a stomp. Teth beat the shit out of carter, its his healing factor that kept him conscious.Like martian manhunter tried and got twoshotted for his troubles? Adam has ridiculous durability even for a top tier.
Cosmic cheese. Drax ripped apart a star and destroyed a planet with thanos, mar-vell tanked his shots without budging in the same arc.
That's not what I asked. I wasn't looking for a discussion of these other characters, but for you to look deeper into Gladiator's power sets based on his displays of speed, strength, durability, and general all around versatility.
I made the comment to show you that Black Adam is neither invincible, or all powerful, and could be stood up to by a guy much lower in power than he is. I'm sure that there would be no argument if I said that Gladiator going all out would also beat the mess out of Hawkman as well. back to the question though. If you can't answer, then let's agree to disagree, because you don't seem to be able to understand what it is that I have asked, or you're playing games. I have no time for either.
Originally posted by Stoic
That's not what I asked. I wasn't looking for a discussion of these other characters, but for you to look deeper into Gladiator's power sets based on his displays of speed, strength, durability, and general all around versatility.I made the comment to show you that Black Adam is neither invincible, or all powerful, and could be stood up to by a guy much lower in power than he is. I'm sure that there would be no argument if I said that Gladiator going all out would also beat the mess out of Hawkman as well. back to the question though. If you can't answer, then let's agree to disagree, because you don't seem to be able to understand what it is that I have asked, or you're playing games. I have no time for either.