Originally posted by abhilegend
How many superman comics have you read? Just for a rough comparison, gladiator had his arm broken like a twig and tossed like garbage by a being assimilated the strength of a planet of beings, superman stalemated Amalak with the strength of a planet of being after attacked by red sun and kryptonite. Do the math.
Superman isn't in this thread. None of the rest mean anything because the guy that broke gladiator's arm was obviously way up on the food chain.
Originally posted by StoicI'm sure Gambit's deck of cards is supernova level, at least.
I can see why you might have a case, but as I stated above, the force of the deck of cards that Gambit hit him with is unquantified.
We don't need to have mathematical equations in order to realize that being knocked by Gambit, even while going so far above his normal level as to use a whole deck (holy sh*t, a whole deck?!), is a pathetic showing.
Saying 'unquantifiable' is not an argument.
Originally posted by StoicBlack Adam would battle Hulk by shooting heat vision, having it palmed back into his face, and then dragged around like a ragdoll?
Being beaten down by the Hulk who has consistently operated at those levels isn't really a poor showing, since Black Adam would likely battle the Hulk in the same way in a comic book.
Stoic, dear, you're just not very good at this whole..thinking thing.
Originally posted by Stoic😂
As for Corsair's pistol, this is also unquantified, because unless you know what his gun was packing it may have been powerful enough to deck the Silver Surfer
I'm sure Corsair's random pistol is able to ktfo Silver Surfer.
You're the guy who said "I can almost see a Firelord beating happening to Aquaman" on a Spiderman vs Aquaman thread, aren't you?
What a cute simpleton.
Originally posted by StoicBecause we were talking about battle records. Are you running away now to "Gladiator destroyed a planet", which means shit in battle?
Instead why not prove that Black Adam is faster, stronger, has a stronger punch based on planetary destructive scales.
Drax has crushed stars with his bare hands and yet is weaker than sub-class 100 She-Hulk. Kyle Rayner has contained supernovas and juggled planets, yet his shields can't hold Superman. Rookie Green Lanterns survive Black Holes (which is a feat beyond Gladiator), and in battle they're worth shit.
Originally posted by StoicI guess the whole DCU, including Superman is weak, because Superboy Prime plowed through them all.
I mean we can both use low showings like the time that Suberboy Prime made teth look like a bug, only to have been given a better fight than Teth by Superboy. You see how it works?
Scales:
Black Adam's low feat is Superboy Prime.
Gladiator's low feat is Corsair's gun, teenage Colossus and Gambit's deck of cards.
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Originally posted by Stoic
Colossus lost the battle and Gladiator was unharmed, so this really doesn't make him look bad, and that showing could also be looked at from many different perspectives; such as Gladiator may have been taking it easy on Peter
"[...]giving everything they have."
Gladiator was going all out, but couldn't defeat Colossus until the structure crumbling around them decided the battle.
You haven't even read Gladiator's comics, have you?
Originally posted by abhilegend
So was amalak. Koed both PG and SG simultaneously. What else did Eldest one did to say he was up there?
Well based on his ability to easily toy with Gladiator shows that he would have easily toyed with anyone that has given Gladiator a good fight. The guys that are capable of giving Gladiator a good fight on that level would include Thor, The Hulk, Hyperion, Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, and a large list of top tier characters. He wasn't easily defeated by some punk type of character, which shouldn't be used in an attempt to discredit Gladiator. That guy was bad ass.
@ Philo
You still never proved that Teth is stronger, faster, or more versatile than Gladiator, all you did was attempt to raise your over inflated ego to higher height than it already is, with your snide attempts at an insult, but all you ended up doing is confirming what type of an ******* you really are.
You simply have no proof that Teth is faster, stronger, or can cause more planetary damage than Gladiator, nor do you have an answer for is clear advantages. Until you can come up with a clear comparison continue with the horse and pony show. however it still does not prove that Teth is superior over a non jobbing Gladiator.
Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm sure Gambit's deck of cards is supernova level, at least.We don't need to have mathematical equations in order to realize that being knocked by Gambit, even while going so far above his normal level as to use a whole deck (holy sh*t, a whole deck?!), is a pathetic showing.
Saying 'unquantifiable' is not an argument.
Black Adam would battle Hulk by shooting heat vision, having it palmed back into his face, and then dragged around like a ragdoll?
Stoic, dear, you're just not very good at this whole..thinking thing.
😂
I'm sure Corsair's random pistol is able to ktfo Silver Surfer.
You're the guy who said "I can almost see a Firelord beating happening to Aquaman" on a Spiderman vs Aquaman thread, aren't you?
What a cute simpleton.
Because we were talking about battle records. Are you running away now to "Gladiator destroyed a planet", which means shit in battle?
Drax has crushed stars with his bare hands and yet is weaker than sub-class 100 She-Hulk. Kyle Rayner has contained supernovas and juggled planets, yet his shields can't hold Superman. Rookie Green Lanterns survive Black Holes (which is a feat beyond Gladiator), and in battle they're worth shit.
I guess the whole DCU, including Superman is weak, because Superboy Prime plowed through them all.
Scales:
Black Adam's low feat is Superboy Prime.
Gladiator's low feat is Corsair's gun, teenage Colossus and Gambit's deck of cards.😂
"[...]giving everything they have."
Gladiator was going all out, but couldn't defeat Colossus until the structure crumbling around them decided the battle.
You haven't even read Gladiator's comics, have you?
Also if Gladiator wasn't taking it easy on Peter how was he able to stand there smiling at him as he slammed him with that pillar? Yet people are supposed to believe that he was giving his all? Even after being unharmed after the battle? I see where a debate with you goes, you say something, and then slip in a little insult to make your case appear solid.
Originally posted by Stoic
Well based on his ability to easily toy with Gladiator shows that he would have easily toyed with anyone that has given Gladiator a good fight. The guys that are capable of giving Gladiator a good fight on that level would include Thor, The Hulk, Hyperion, Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, and a large list of top tier characters. He wasn't easily defeated by some punk type of character, which shouldn't be used in an attempt to discredit Gladiator. That guy was bad ass.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
^only if being > a fence puts you above supermanPlaying the lowball game is dumb
BTW cannonball would be hard for any brick to put down, and Rachel called on the phoenix
Wait a minute...Gladiator TOYED with Cannonball the entire time, he even states this during the fight. Cannonball didn't have one advantage during that fight, not one and gained a new ability to even make Gladiator notice him. It's like me pointing out Superman getting stomped by a street level character, shadowdragon and getting his face bust opened by a herc that doesn't even have any fts.
Clapping away at the lowball attempts when both Superman and Gladiator are full of them. Abhi, just go away.
Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute...Gladiator TOYED with Cannonball the entire time, he even states this during the fight. Cannonball didn't have one advantage during that fight, not one and gained a new ability to even make Gladiator notice him. It's like me pointing out Superman getting stomped by a street level character, shadowdragon and getting his face bust opened by a herc that doesn't even have any fts.Clapping away at the lowball attempts when both Superman and Gladiator are full of them. Abhi, just go away.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He didn't toy with cannonball, not in slightest. Also herc has held themyscira on his shoulders for 3000 years. Shadowdragon, really? That's like calling cap knocking out hulk a low showing, its outright PIS. You've been doing this for a long time.
Gladiator was clearly toying with him. Show me once instance in that fight before Cannonball amped off of Gladiator power where CB hurt or damaged Glads. DC herc sucks and you know it. I know not to use that as an average for Superman though. Go lowball somewhere else.
By the way, this was the first punch Gladiator threw that entire fight.
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/6572/gladiatorvscannonball54cb.jpg
Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator was clearly toying with him. Show me once instance in that fight before Cannonball amped off of Gladiator power where CB hurt or damaged Glads. DC herc sucks and you know it. I know not to use that as an average for Superman though. Go lowball somewhere else.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That proves gladiator was toying with him? So much toying that he intended to kill him with one punch! Yeah, now that he's not a no feat wonder, he sucks. BTW, he defeated a sinestro clone who was choking WW outright. Your lowballing skills are getting rusty.
So him defeating a clone means that he can split Superman wig with a single hit? That makes sense.
Gladiator was toying with him.
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9223/gladiatorvscannonball23jc.jpg
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/4466/gladiatorvscannonball35ma.jpg
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8432/gladiatorvscannonball41tu.jpg
Gladiator got serious once and that was when CB absorbed his power (which could have happened to anyone).
Originally posted by carver9
So him defeating a clone means that he can split Superman wig with a single hit? That makes sense.Gladiator was toying with him.
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9223/gladiatorvscannonball23jc.jpg
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/4466/gladiatorvscannonball35ma.jpg
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8432/gladiatorvscannonball41tu.jpg
Gladiator got serious once and that was when CB absorbed his power (which could have happened to anyone).
Nowhere was gladiator toying with sam. Stop it. Apparently not to speedball/penance.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That was the clone who was beating WW, you know who you give a split against superman.Nowhere was gladiator toying with sam. Stop it. Apparently not to speedball/penance.
So him defeating a clone means he can one punch, split Superman face? What in the hell.
Gladiator was CLEARLY toying with him and my scans proves that. He would have fought, Thor, Juggernaut, etc, completely different. Hell, he showed this recently when he stomped Ms. Marvel, Ironman, and Thing recently.
Originally posted by carver9
So him defeating a clone means he can one punch, split Superman face? What in the hell.Gladiator was CLEARLY toying with him and my scans proves that. He would have fought, Thor, Juggernaut, etc, completely different. Hell, he showed this recently when he stomped Ms. Marvel, Ironman, and Thing recently.
Nope. He fought hulk and masterson in the same manner and got punked.
Where? In the same comic you are referencing logan put his claws through him like it was a knife through butter and gladiator wrestled with him to make him get off.
