Avatar profited massively from the fact that there were no other big blockbuster releases out at wintertime and thus no competition whatsoever(it was this factor that also got Titanic it's massive BO, which Cameron clearly learned from). MCU films always own at the BO, but they'll never reach that Avatar point, because they're summer films, and thus will always have summer competition from other blockbusters.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Avatar profited massively from the fact that there were no other big blockbuster releases out at wintertime and thus no competition whatsoever(it was this factor that also got Titanic it's massive BO, which Cameron clearly learned from). MCU films always own at the BO, but they'll never reach that Avatar point, because they're summer films, and thus will always have summer competition from other blockbusters.
I'm pretty sure Thor2 was released in the Winter.
Thor 2 is no Avengers by a long shot. RDJ's fantastic charisma carried the sub-par IM3 through the box office, and GOTG and CA2 were highly critically acclaimed, so that's why they did well.
IMO, to the non-comic-reading audience, Thor is probably the least notable and interesting of the Avengers. In a sci fi world with original robots, super-soldiers, and irradiated monsters, a rip off of an old Norse myth seems rather tame and out of place (even if they are re-worked as aliens). Combined with that the fact that T:TDW got average reviews at best, (whereas Avatar got touted by Time as the "most fantastic sci fi film in the history of cinema" 😆 ) it's clear to see why it didn't get Avatar numbers despite being released in the same time period.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Thor 2 is no Avengers by a long shot. RDJ's fantastic charisma carried the sub-par IM3 through the box office, and GOTG and CA2 were highly critically acclaimed, so that's why they did well.IMO, to the non-comic-reading audience, Thor is probably the least notable and interesting of the Avengers. In a sci fi world with original robots, super-soldiers, and irradiated monsters, a rip off of an old Norse myth seems rather tame and out of place (even if they are re-worked as aliens). Combined with that the fact that T:TDW got average reviews at best, (whereas Avatar got touted by Time as the "most fantastic sci fi film in the history of cinema" 😆 ) it's clear to see why it didn't get Avatar numbers despite being released in the same time period.
Oh not saying Thor2 should have got Avatar numbers, only Avengers has even a small chance of that.
But just noting it was released in Winter without fantastic numbers compared to the rest of the Marvel Phase II movies.
But I don't agree Thor doesn't have as much potential as the others. His first movie was actually the second biggest solo franchise of Phase I. I just think the sequel wasn't that great. And like you said he's not got IM/RDJ's massive massive popularity for people to overlook the fact that it's a very average quality movie.
I'm not saying I don't like Thor, and I really really enjoyed the first Thor film. It's just that if you were to ask non-comic readers to rank the most iconic Avengers, I doubt Thor would be in the top 4. Just seems (IMO), that he was the least known before the MCU films came out. I could be wrong though.
Originally posted by Lestov16
I'm not saying I don't like Thor, and I really really enjoyed the first Thor film. It's just that if you were to ask non-comic readers to rank the most iconic Avengers, I doubt Thor would be in the top 4. Just seems (IMO), that he was the least known before the MCU films came out. I could be wrong though.
Iconic would be the wrong word, but if you asked "whose your favorite" I'm sure Thor was above Captain America prior to Phase 2.
He was basically doing both. He's free of Tony's control. And Ultron in comics has always been of the impression that humans are lesser beings, and slaves to their emotions and biological mistakes. While he is a being of pure logic and reason, so he isn't held back or influenced by things like that.