Originally posted by Stoic
The Thing was trained as a wrestler, how can you begin to compare Balder's skill as a true warrior to Monday Night Raw? Balder would kill the Thing in a true battle as well, simply because he has the skill to do so. Shatterstar is not on Spiderman's level so let's not go there. Balder defeated was the last warrior standing in a battle that Thor, Loki, and several other very skilled warriors competed in, which shows me that he does have the feats to defeat a much weaker Shaterstar. Shatterstar would not even be able to defend himself if he attempt to parry with his sword, because he would be sorely lacking in strength to take the hit, even behind his sword. This is common sense. One guy can hit with 50 tons of force with a sword, and the other guy has yet to even lift a 2 ton sedan. Balder would hit him like a major league baseball power hitter hits a baseball. Sorry there is no contest Balder wins.
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Wrestling is pretty much the most dominate and imposing fighting style on earth, as well as being one of the easiest to learn. Outside of his pro-wrestling back ground you are trying to use to diminish his accomplishments, Thing has an extensive back ground in real greco-roman, judo and boxing, as well as cqc from his military training. Benjiman Grimm is - with out a shadow of a doubt, more skilled than Balder.
Shatterstar is faster and more skilled than Balder, he'd have no trouble dancing around and embarrassing him in sword play. Shatterstar has better feats than Balder, its not even a question of who is superior.
Jake, Rage, Newjak, Dark Odin, or any of the other Asgardian knowledgeable members. What are Balders powers? Does he have the power to emit white hot light capable of destruction on a wide localized area?
If so then what would stop Balder from momentarily stunning Shatterstar with a bright flash of light, grabbing him and choke slamming him through the street and into a sewer hole?
Originally posted by Stoic
Jake, Rage, Newjak, Dark Odin, or any of the other Asgardian knowledgeable members. What are Balders powers? Does he have the power to emit white hot light capable of destruction on a wide localized area?If so then what would stop Balder from momentarily stunning Shatterstar with a bright flash of light, grabbing him and choke slamming him through the street and into a sewer hole?
Capable of releasing sun level heat. Frost giant or not, it will burn steets or metas. Can also heal others or himself with his "light". This fight however is only swordplay. He still wins.
he could def harm balder, and yeah balder can use an aoe attack but i assumed this was straight sword play. i`d say balder is somewhere around 30-40tons--not strong enough that star would be completely overwhelmed. everyone also knows that in comics length of life rarely equates to greater skill, but even with that said balder should be the more skilled of the 2. with the greater durability and likely better speed as well as strength he should take this nearly all the time imo, but i don`t think any of the battles would be easy
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Comics. Feats. Balder has none to suggest he's superior. Being AsgardIan isn't gonna cut it
OK good point. But power set should at times be considered, as well as tales of battle prowess. Balder actually does have battle feats though, he won a Gladiator competition against Thor, and I would place Thor far above the Thing in terms of battle performance. What do you think about that?
Originally posted by Stoic
OK good point. But power set should at times be considered, as well as tales of battle prowess. Balder actually does have battle feats though, he won a Gladiator competition against Thor, and I would place Thor far above the Thing in terms of battle performance. What do you think about that?
he also defeated that giant who had the sword of frey in 1on1 combat. the sword was supposed to allow the wielder to never lose but balder still battled him to a stalemate before ultimately using his h2h skills to take him out. a very impressive feat....
Originally posted by Stoic
OK good point. But power set should at times be considered, as well as tales of battle prowess. Balder actually does have battle feats though, he won a Gladiator competition against Thor, and I would place Thor far above the Thing in terms of battle performance. What do you think about that?
Powerset does not dictate superiority. I would place IM over any no name kryptonian for example.
Originally posted by leonidas
he also defeated that giant who had the sword of frey in 1on1 combat. the sword was supposed to allow the wielder to never lose but balder still battled him to a stalemate before ultimately using his h2h skills to take him out. a very impressive feat....
He has beaten a highly touted frost giant (Hagen) in single combat. And ure correct about the mystical Sword of Frey. The leader of the frost giants gave it to Hagen making him even more invinsible after it was stolen. Balder's skill is sooo retaaaded that he overcame that disadvantage. I also remember Balder beating thousands of armed Hel demons in a few panels. What was impressive was he had sworn off violence and had gotten fat at that time. Either peeps just don't know or are wanking that scuffle b/n Shatterstar and jobber Thing. The idea that Shatt's is more skilled and will dance around Balder is laughable.
