Originally posted by TheOneOfMortisAnd if you can't see how ridiculous what you is saying is, then you have nothing left to give me... except your death. See you in hell pal after I kill you.
Is this supposed to be some kind of twisted joke? If so I don't find it funny at all and I'm reporting you for it. Besides which your probably a sock anyway.
Originally posted by Arhael
Technically Maul defeated Kenobi with help of Savage. With Savage being hurt Maul wouldn't be able to get enraged to muster that Force push, attachments give a lot if power. 😄
Considering he force levitated him in the middle of a fight, I doubt he needed to be enraged to dominate Obi-Wan with the Force.
Originally posted by mnat801
Thats not maul defeating kenobi, thats maul practically saying, "sh*t, i better get kenobi away from us before he cuts one of my limbs off as well."
No that's you butt hurt that Maul knocked Obi-Wan out without Opress's help.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No, it isn't. All of the quotes proclaiming thats he's second to none in the Order were from his apprentices thoughts. He has nothing more than Anakin proclaiming that Kenobi is Mace and Yodas equal.It's all speculation. Give me the actual quote that says they are equal anyway.
We are discussing saber ability exclusively. Don't be thick.
I've explaining to you why thats insane numerous times. Stop being a moron and wise up.
Nope it is the book that states it not his apprentice.
Originally posted by Nephthys
But Sidious trained him. Plus, his technical skills aren't even better than Kenobi's. Besides which Sidious has shown that he's highly skilled in his fights with Mace and Yoda, two of the most technically skilled Jedi in the mythos.
Some may argue Kenobi is also top-tier when it comes to technical skill.
From every source on Maul he is supposed to be a complete beast in combat skill.
Originally posted by Nephthys
The book is written in third-person limited narration. Look it up. 😉
I believe it's also mentioned in "Cloak of Deception" which is lying in my room but I haven't found the time to start reading it.
Anyone who has read it can confirm or unconfirm that.
I don't see what the big deal is anyway. The quote only ever referred to "technical skill." But the point was Maul's combat "skill" was supposed to be even greater than Anoon's.
Originally posted by Nephthys
That is the big deal.And I've read it. It's written in Third person limited.
Well they usually are.
But when there's different people thinking the same thing then we tend to believe there's some truth to it.
Also just out of curiosity, why do you rank Qui-Gon so low? I would just say he's a bit of an unknown in terms of combat prowess. All we know is he lost to Darth Maul. That doesn't necessarily mean any Jedi with feats can beat him.
I rank Qui-Gon low because theres nothing indicating that he shouldn't be to me.
Originally posted by TheOneOfMortis
I'm not sure what you're saying Nephthys
And I'm not sure how I can make it clearer for you. Just read the definition:
"Third person limited point of view is a method of storytelling in which the narrator knows only the thoughts and feelings of a single character, while other characters are presented only externally. Third person limited grants a writer more freedom than first person, but less than third person omniscient.
For example, For Whom the Bell Tolls sticks firmly with one character's consciousness, that of Robert Jordan: "This Anselmo had been a good guide and he could travel wonderfully in the mountains. Robert Jordan could walk well enough himself and he knew from following him since before daylight that the old man could walk him to death. Robert Jordan trusted the man, Anselmo, so far, in everything except judgment. He had not yet had an opportunity to test his judgment, and, anyway, the judgment was his own responsibility."
The reader will only know Anselmo's thoughts and responses insofar as he reveals them through his actions. But Robert Jordan's thoughts will be shared throughout the story. It's his reactions and his interpretations of events that the reader will understand and follow.
Because third person limited is defined mostly by what it doesn't do, it may help at this point to read an example of third person omniscient for comparison."
From Star Wars books TFUII is a clear example of third person narrative.
The chapters alternate between describing events from Juno's perspective and Starkiller's perspective.
All Star Wars books are pretty much written that way but TFUII is an easy example to grasp the concept.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I rank Qui-Gon low because theres nothing indicating that he shouldn't be to me.
I don't buy that. All we can say for sure is he was < Maul. But then so are most Jedi. Opress is below Maul. Ventress and Fisto are likely below Maul.
So there's really nothing to suggest he's some weak Jedi. His power and combat prowess could range anywhere from Adi Gallia's level to Ventress level. We just don't know.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I rank Qui-Gon low because theres nothing indicating that he shouldn't be to me.And I'm not sure how I can make it clearer for you. Just read the definition:
"Third person limited point of view is a method of storytelling in which the narrator knows only the thoughts and feelings of a single character, while other characters are presented only externally. Third person limited grants a writer more freedom than first person, but less than third person omniscient.
For example, For Whom the Bell Tolls sticks firmly with one character's consciousness, that of Robert Jordan: "This Anselmo had been a good guide and he could travel wonderfully in the mountains. Robert Jordan could walk well enough himself and he knew from following him since before daylight that the old man could walk him to death. Robert Jordan trusted the man, Anselmo, so far, in everything except judgment. He had not yet had an opportunity to test his judgment, and, anyway, the judgment was his own responsibility."
The reader will only know Anselmo's thoughts and responses insofar as he reveals them through his actions. But Robert Jordan's thoughts will be shared throughout the story. It's his reactions and his interpretations of events that the reader will understand and follow.
Because third person limited is defined mostly by what it doesn't do, it may help at this point to read an example of third person omniscient for comparison."
But there is a difference between the dialogue from the characters and text from the writier, which is completely canon.