One thing at a time. Let's see if he can take Obi-Wan first.
The fact that Maul and Savage together fail to defeat Obi-Wan really isn't a good start for Maul to be compared to Dooku.
He also needs Force feats to show Dooku won't just TK him.
But yeah his literal stomp of Savage is impressive. He must be the first guy who hasn't been effected by Savage's tremendous strength in the slightest.
^ Relative ease? I don't about that.
Anyone who can completely manhandle Savage's tremendous strength like that added to the level of skill and training Maul has will prove a definite challenge to Dooku Imho.
But yes I still say Dooku is sufficiently above him in an all out considering Maul apparently keeps failing to take Obi-Wan.
Not to mention all of Dooku's amazing Force TK feats.
Nah the Ventress/Obi-Wan fight was fine. They were all tough warriors in that fight and it was Maul's first fight in over 10 years.
And if your thinking Dooku can take Ventress and Obi-Wan on his own, well Dooku's just good at taking on multiple opponents so that A>B>C doesn't really work.
The main thing that gives me doubts about making this comparison is Maul and Savage together failing to defeat an Obi-Wan wielding 2 Sabers.
Unless of course they're trying to show us that Obi-Wan in Sabers is up there with Dooku..
Originally posted by Nephthys
Ventress and Kenobi are good fighters.Plus Maul was clearly beating Kenobi.
That's not my point. My point is that Maul was having trouble beating Kenobi. Dooku is in a different tier than both of them imo, if you add in Savage or any other Mid-High tier this becomes a match.
From the spoilers I've read courtesy of those who have seen the season 5 premiere, Obi-Wan's defeat of Maul and Savage is extremely hard fought and context specific. I'm not sure it means any more than Asajj's brief curbstomp of Obi-Wan and Anakin in "Nightsisters" or Savage's moment of advantage over Dooku and Asajj in "Witches of the Mist", etc.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
From the spoilers I've read courtesy of those who have seen the season 5 premiere, Obi-Wan's defeat of Maul and Savage is extremely hard fought and context specific. I'm not sure it means any more than Asajj's brief curbstomp of Obi-Wan and Anakin in "Nightsisters" or Savage's moment of advantage over Dooku and Asajj in "Witches of the Mist", etc.
I figured as such. Because we've seen Ventress and Opress doing the same kind of thing in the past in context specific situations.
The fight in question is after Obi-Wan witnesses Opress killing Adi. That's bound to make Kenobi fight better than usual to avenge her. Whilst in the promo Maul sounds a bit overconfident before the fight starts saying "Your no match for us"
Also the fight looks like it's in a very enclosed space meaning Obi-Wan might be able to try fighting them one at a time, whilst in a more open space the duo together could perhaps just force Tk him all over the place.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
That's not my point. My point is that Maul was having trouble beating Kenobi. Dooku is in a different tier than both of them imo, if you add in Savage or any other Mid-High tier this becomes a match.
Or perhaps Obi-Wan is closer to Dooku in Sabers than we thought.
As for force abilities we already know Opress has greater Force Tk feats than Kenobi, and I'm guessing Maul will have similar raw power to Opress, seen as after Maul stomps Opress he says to him "You've become powerful"