Arrow

Didn't Ollie used to have electric arrows? I remember him taking Slade out with a single arrow attack once, and kidnapping him or something..

Ollie hasn't been too creative at all against Darhk. How about gas arrows? Or firing five at the same time? Or using a flash bang so he can't see enough to use his voodoo.

Batman would have worked out half a dozen tactics by the first episode..

One of the better episodes in a while. Happy they

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finally killed Andy. He was becoming extremely annoying.

Originally posted by cdtm
Didn't Ollie used to have electric arrows? I remember him taking Slade out with a single arrow attack once, and kidnapping him or something..

Ollie hasn't been too creative at all against Darhk. How about gas arrows? Or firing five at the same time? Or using a flash bang so he can't see enough to use his voodoo.

Batman would have worked out half a dozen tactics by the first episode..

There's been instances where he fired a few arrows at a time against Darhk, but proved just as futile. He could still be more tactical overall though by this point, yeah.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
One of the better episodes in a while. Happy they

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finally killed Andy. He was becoming extremely annoying.

First good character beats in a while. That tragedy montage while Oliver was shrouded in the black mist was particularly poignant and well done. Actually drove home the darkness v. light thing that they harp on a bit too often.

Thea's whole story this ep. was too predictable. When I can call it beat for beat (i.e. "He's making breakfast, not in danger" etc.) it's obviously a trope, not original writing.

Honestly season 4 of Arrow has been absolutely brilliant, but so has the flash and it is really hard to decide which I like more. But in terms of big plots the Flash has come out on top but on the other hand Arrow has done a fantastic job with the shock and awe lately in this season and has become more humorous.

Based on the last episode, I'm guessing now by the end of the season,

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Felicity's gonna drop out of the team for good (thank god), out of guilt for the approx 10,000 people she killed while trying to reduce the collateral damage of that last nuke they couldn't stop that was launched. At least, if I was in her position, I'd feel terrible enough to be like "I can't do this shit anymore after this".

I don't know, but we'll have to see.
Other than that, I like how they've upped the ante for the villain of the season's plans. First you had Merlyn's plan to destroy the glades, then you had Slade and later Ra's that wanted to have all of Starling destroyed with how it would affect Oliver, and now you've got Darhk wanting to do that on a global scale and start anew. What's the next main villain's plan gonna be I wonder? lol

Oh, and with how Darhk's magically powered up now by all the death that just happened, shit's gonna get real...

What was with everybody obsessing over lies? Kind of stupid one's to obsess over, too.. IMO, Ollie was totally justified in keeping knowledge of his son to himself, and only screwed up by trying to contact him without commiting to him.

Dinah's whining was just nonsensical. I wouldn't confide in her about what I ate for lunch if I was Lance, let alone anything important (And lock away all your private stuff).

Nothing wrong with wanting to keep others honest, but yeah. It's a point that tends to feel forced a lot in this show.

Is this season still shit?

it's so much better when you jut FF through all the bullshit you know isn't relevant to the plot.

That said, yeah, it's still shit.

Well, can't say I'd still be nearly as invested in this overall without Neal McDonough. He's been carrying it.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Nothing wrong with wanting to keep others honest, but yeah. It's a point that tends to feel forced a lot in this show.

Depends on the lie, and the intent.

"All lies are bad" is kind of a nieve message, for a show with a vigilante keeping a secret identity, getting help from a secret underground cabal, full of people that have lied to someone's face or other about what they re doing. 😉

"Yeah honey, I shot my brother in cold blood" simply isn't anything anybody needs to know.

This season has more salvageable stuff than the last season but yeah this show still kind of sucks.

But hey now Felicity has a legitimate reason for leaving the team now so it works out somehow right? Also Oliver will have to fight super-Darhk so there's that.

Originally posted by cdtm
Depends on the lie, and the intent.

"All lies are bad" is kind of a nieve message, for a show with a vigilante keeping a secret identity, getting help from a secret underground cabal, full of people that have lied to someone's face or other about what they re doing. 😉

"Yeah honey, I shot my brother in cold blood" simply isn't anything anybody needs to know.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
This season has more salvageable stuff than the last season but yeah this show still kind of sucks.

The powered up Darhk at the beginning was definitely cool, but Anarchy kinda stole the show for today's episode,

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being the reason the 'ark' or only safe place is destroyed now, along with killing Darhk's wife

Oh, and I guess because

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the writers love Malcolm Merlyn so much, they'll have him turn against Darhk somewhere in the finale since they no longer got that secret place to keep Thea safe in, and they'll prolly somehow forgive him again after all is said and done with helping against Darhk at the last minute... Ugh.

Well I think now is a good time to jump ship. Also this finale is pretty much the finale to TDKR.

Aye, and that bitter awkward departing by the end. Darhk definitely fought better hand-to-hand here than that last time he lost his magic though, so I liked that at least.

Oliver rides off into the sunset as the emotionally conflicted but inspiring and competent mayor who leads Star City back to prosperity. He still dons the cowl on occasion, but slowly become a figurehead for change and hope.

This is my head canon. I need to tie a bow on it so I don't watch next season. In reality, I'll probably read the wiki synopses in case there are Flash crossovers. But yeah, I'm done. It was an ok run.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well I think now is a good time to jump ship. Also this finale is pretty much the finale to TDKR.

Almost literally every season has been a similar plot. It's just hitting you now? 😛

A kingdom of isolation, and it looks like Oliver's the queen.~

But yeah, S3 was pretty TDKR esque too.

I've literally skipped every single episode of Season 1 barring the fight scenes/the Flashbacks after once Slade becomes introduced and starts training Oliver/getting off the island. This show's writing isn't as good as Daredevil Season 1, so the subplots about Oliver killing people on his Dad's list aren't interesting, none of the characters have really stuck, and the constant drama/love issues with characters is boring. That and there was/has been little development on Malcom's character apart from when Deadshot tried to kill him, his issues with his son, and how he barely appears but Oh we get more scenes about the Nightclub and love triangle stuff!

Hopefully, the stuff with Ras and Deathstroke is way better than this crap

Originally posted by carthage
I've literally skipped every single episode of Season 1 barring the fight scenes/the Flashbacks after once Slade becomes introduced and starts training Oliver/getting off the island. This show's writing isn't as good as Daredevil Season 1, so the subplots about Oliver killing people on his Dad's list aren't interesting, none of the characters have really stuck, and the constant drama/love issues with characters is boring. That and there was/has been little development on Malcom's character apart from when Deadshot tried to kill him, his issues with his son, and how he barely appears but Oh we get more scenes about the Nightclub and love triangle stuff!

Hopefully, the stuff with Ras and Deathstroke is way better than this crap