Re: "Innocence of Muslims" Crisis
Originally posted by Lestov16
You all know the story. A cheaply made internet video insulting Muhammad has caused thousands across several nations to revolt in protest of the United States. What are your thoughts on the matter
The protests serve as a great distraction from the corrupt governments of those countries. The common people in the demonstration should be out there demanding that the US government leave their countries. There are many good reasons for hating the US government but this isn't one of them. Religious zealotry blinds so many of the demonstrators, however, and fuels emotional anger that is actually caused by ignorance and a long history of US imperialism in the region, and their own misleaders sucking up to Uncle Sam, of course.
The right-wingnuts in the US who backed and produced "Innocence of Muslims" hoped it would bring Obama to his knees on a foreign policy issue but, not surprisingly, it has badly hurt Romney's image because of the idiotic statements he made after the US Ambassador was killed, and the idiotic damage control statements he and his staff continue to make about this issue.
I predict this thread will quickly polarize between Obamaites and Romneyites who want to discuss smaller related points backed up with anecdotal proof or no proof at all. 🙂
these aren't spontaneous protests against American interests.
for instance, there have been demonstrations in Iran against the Swiss embassy. a nation like Iran does not allow demonstrations not specifically approved by the state, showing a bit of the collusion between state interests, geopolitics and why people are protesting.
The attack on the embassy which killed Stevens was obviously planned concidering that the movie was released months ago and that the attacks were in multiple areas at the same time aimed to be on 9/11. They aren't just attacking US embassies either.
The crowds in Egypt are rioting for an Al Qaida member, Omar Abdel Rahman aka "The Blind Sheikh" to be freed.
People in Libya were acting in retaliation due to a drone strike in june which killed another Al Qaida operative from Libya, Mohammed Hassan Qaed.
This shit isnt just about some stupid movie.
How about Paulites? Another prediction to add to the list.
The Libyan attack was planned in the sense that a bunch of militia men heard about a video, realized it was the anniversary of 9/11, and said "hey, let's go shoot the embassy up".
That's the likely extent of the plan.
And it's not as if Ron Paul was saying anything in that video that hadn't been said many times before (and I mean before he made that statement a year ago). It's fairly obvious that with Gaddafi gone the door opens up to all kinds of militants--that's the thing, Al Qaeda is just one fish in a bucket in Libya.
The real concern right now is Mali.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
The Libyan attack was planned in the sense that a bunch of militia men heard about a video, realized it was the anniversary of 9/11, and said "hey, let's go shoot the embassy up".
That sounds stupid as ****. Sorry.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
And it's not as if Ron Paul was saying anything in that video that hadn't been said many times before (and I mean before he made that statement a year ago). It's fairly obvious that with Gaddafi gone the door opens up to all kinds of militants--that's the thing, Al Qaeda is just one fish in a bucket in Libya.The real concern right now is Mali.
So obvious that our own government still supplied aid to the rebels.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
The Libyan attack was planned in the sense that a bunch of militia men heard about a video, realized it was the anniversary of 9/11, and said "hey, let's go shoot the embassy up".
I wouldn't be surprised to find out there was more planning than that. I can't actually say I believe it has anything to do with the 9/11 attacks, and more to do with taking advantage of people's anger to create a cover for themselves.
Really more of an opportunistic thing; people are mad, point them at the embassy and attack in the confusion.
Originally posted by Mairuzu
That sounds stupid as ****. Sorry.
So obvious that our own government still supplied aid to the rebels.
Just fools using the video as an excuse to be fools. Maybe they're just unhappy because in the U.S. you can actually post dissenting videos even if they are idiotic. Considering that there was less fanfare when groups and U.S. troops in an unrelated even burned Qurans it's pretty clear this was stupidity masquerading as zealotry.
I hate Facebook, but some one needs to get these people on it and some 9gag so they'll waste their free time in inanity rather than shooting things up. Nothing sews apathy and laziness like the interwebs. "Oh, the horror; let's blog about it."