^It's arguable, but at the end of the day, as Walt himself admitted, he didn't really need to kill him just because the dude refused to give up his guys' names. Of course, if Mike had decided to go after Walt once he'd become aware of what Walt did to his guys, it would've been justifiable.
Not the way it actually went down in the show.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthHeisenberg did not use an iPad, kiddo.
But clearly you don't have Heisenberg's ability to spell.
Too busy rushing to be a showpony, eh?Walter White was also interesting.
So you've got lots of catching up to do.
In the end you remind me of the Walter White whereas I am the Heisenberg in him. You're the sensitive type.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Along with the smarts of Badger. Which doesn't make a good combination by any standards, although for you it's probably gold.
Please, just stop mucking up this thread with that petty squabble.
Notice I am asking you and not Quan. (Note: Badgers are pretty dang smart and very clever animals).
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^It's arguable, but at the end of the day, as Walt himself admitted, he didn't really need to kill him just because the dude refused to give up his guys' names. Of course, if Mike had decided to go after Walt once he'd become aware of what Walt did to his guys, it would've been justifiable.
I definitely think killing Mike was the best course of action for Walt to take. He just got too soft and regretted doing it. IMO, he was justifying why it was bad to kill Mike to make himself feel bad because he felt evil for doing it. One of those "beating myself up to help me still feel human" situations.
Imo, he's going after the Shwartz goober and his woman, he was ready to surrender until he saw the tv clip of them dissing him. They ****ed him out of millions, tried to sympathy boat his ass and now smeared him.
Also thinking the risen(sp?) is for himself now, as a way to end it after his rampage. Walt can die of cancer in prison, Heisenberg would never allow himself to go out that way.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Please, just stop mucking up this thread with that petty squabble.Notice I am asking you and not Quan. (Note: Badgers are pretty dang smart and very clever animals).
Originally posted by dadudemon
I definitely think killing Mike was the best course of action for Walt to take. He just got too soft and regretted doing it. IMO, he was justifying why it was bad to kill Mike to make himself feel bad because he felt evil for doing it. One of those "beating myself up to help me still feel human" situations.
If Walt had killed Mike under the alternate circumstances which I mentioned before in my previous post, then it would have made more sense to label it as the best course of action. No, the way Mike was killed was merely Heisenberg acting out his ego.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I think that that would have been less 'if' but 'when'. Gotta take that likelihood as a given.
Originally posted by Robtard
Imo, he's going after the Shwartz goober and his woman, he was ready to surrender until he saw the tv clip of them dissing him. They ****ed him out of millions, tried to sympathy boat his ass and now smeared him.Also thinking the risen(sp?) is for himself now, as a way to end it after his rampage. Walt can die of cancer in prison, Heisenberg would never allow himself to go out that way.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
If the big series finale involves Walt killing the Schwartzes over some petty grudge, then it will be even worse than the finale of Dexter. I mean there's stupid writing, and then there's f*cking retarded writing.
The Schwartzes have been an inconsequential part of the show. They're not the point, not the focus. We haven't spent episode upon episode building up Walt's and Jesse's characters just to have the big grand finale end with a focus on two schmucks who have served only as bit pieces in the larger story. I think people are misconstruing the point of that scene in the bar. It wasn't to give Walt some new hate and antagonist one episode before the end. It was to make him realize how far he's sunk.
There's a reason that the last line from the T.V. before the music cut it out was "the sweet, kind, brilliant man that we once knew long... he's gone."
It's the same as everyone thinking that Walt went full evil, Gus-mode in the previous episode with his telephone call. A lot people thought that was him unleashing the inner badass, or something. It wasn't, that's not the bloody point.
Haha, I disagree. You can see how angry they're making him. He forms a fist.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
If the big series finale involves Walt killing the Schwartzes over some petty grudge, then it will be even worse than the finale of Dexter. I mean there's stupid writing, and then there's f*cking retarded writing.
I agree. He may hate those guys but no way is he going to ****ing murder them.
Walts issue in regards to them has always been about ego, and they directly attacked that part of him when they claimed he had no part in Grey Matter and called him a sweet, kind man, taking away his legacy and denying how he wants to be viewed as a feared, powerful genius. I think he's going to do something that will cement his legacy as a powerful man and stick it to them in someway.
Not by murdering them though.
Originally posted by Lord LucienBeing angry over being anally taken out of both millions of dollars and deserved recognition isn't petty.
If the big series finale involves Walt killing the Schwartzes over some petty grudge, then it will be even worse than the finale of Dexter. I mean there's stupid writing, and then there's f*cking retarded writing.
Add to that the previous sympathy patting, the dis on television and Walt was probably thinking that Schwartz screwing him over direcy lead to Walt being deperate for money and getting into Meth in the first place. Though im hoping it is more than just that for a final.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The Schwartzes have been an inconsequential part of the show. They're not the point, not the focus. We haven't spent episode upon episode building up Walt's and Jesse's characters just to have the big grand finale end with a focus on two schmucks who have served only as bit pieces in the larger story. I think people are misconstruing the point of that scene in the bar. It wasn't to give Walt some new hate and antagonist one episode before the end. It was to make him realize how far he's sunk.There's a reason that the last line from the T.V. before the music cut it out was "the sweet, kind, brilliant man that we once knew long... he's gone."
It's the same as everyone thinking that Walt went full evil, Gus-mode in the previous episode with his telephone call. A lot people thought that was him unleashing the inner badass, or something. It wasn't, that's not the bloody point.
Gray Matter has always been a pivotal part of Walt's life, even across all those times when the audience may have been unaware that it even existed. And I am pretty sure it's going to be a big part of the Felina next week.