Originally posted by h1a8You sidestepped my point entirely frankly.
NO! The comic actually states that the closer one gets to the speed of light then the more mass they gain. Who cares about science in the real world? The comic stated what happens in its own universe. This is proof enough. So if flash gets as close to the speed of light as he wants (in a CIS off situation) then he can annihilate Odin in one blow.But he can also annihilate Odin another route as well, by punching him for 31.71 billion years. Galaxy IMP or not Odin should be dead by then.
Has Flash shown the ability to bust out galaxy busting punches with his IMP, yes or no?
Edit: Also, dude, seriously? Are you suggesting not only that Flash is much, much faster than Odin, but that Odin not only has no superspeed at all, but his reaction-time is slower than the average human's?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Going intangible like this[url]http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Speed/combat/superman170a.jpg
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And doing what to Odin who can still hit him while he's intangible? Please, your getting silly if you think turning intangible stops Odin from hitting him.
T-Vo? Right, like those times when he got his head knocked in by another brick or Orion? And those other times he's deployed it huh?
Say what? Something like this?
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He punches out of it.This isn't the pansy Infinity watch.
The guy who's vulnerable to magic is going to out punch a skyfather? You mean like this?
Cool story bro.
Odin wrecks stars and galaxy, this SuperFool knocked him the F### out against a moon.
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Pre-Crises feats? What's your point again? Did he perform this post crises or something?
Here's post crises against a pansy Probe.
This isn't the consistent version of these characters.
Yeah it is. Superman on average is herald level. How can you say he isn't on that level consistantly when everything he does most high heralds and top tiers have done as well?
And Loki in Odin's body got knocked out by masterson Thor.
Which isn't Odin. Heck, I counter that. Heimdall with a fraction of Odin's power against Masterson Thor. So much for your nonsense. I've got instances, where Odin is poisoned and still wrecked an amped Annihilus in one shot whereas Thor failed to defeat after consistent battle.
ants beat him and there are several showings like that.
And who are these ants again? Did one beat him or all? It's one low point that's it. You got more than this? Odin consistently crushes top tiers and heralds and beats down skyfathers and hell lord class beings. Superman good showings against these guys but not consistently. He doesn't always beat or stalemate skyfathers or treat herald/top tiers like children.
You want to go to that route, go ahead. Yeah, but this isn't the consistent version of superman who never goes all out. When he does he oneshots beings who stalmate 30th century mordru and beat Ion-amped kyle rayner. That reasoning doesn't fly here, superman has feats to show that he can harm even someone like Odin, believe it or not. So does superman. Don't confuse him with that pansy surfer.
And Thor absorbed enough power to destroy 1/5 the universe into Mljornir. BRB cracked Galactus' armor. Odin would still stomp both of them.
Where does he one shot Mordru. Scans? Yes, I'll take this route. You have few poor examples and try to play it up while taking the high end feats to try and play up these herald level hero? Please, Odin one-pimp Surfer, Annihilus, Ulik, and Drax. He beat skyfather level beings like Forsung, Majestrix Zehlia, Seth, Infinity, Surtur, and Ymir.
Superman has troubles with punks like Zod and Konvict among a list of other bricks. His average isn't comparable to Odin's who's average is beating up other skyfathers.
You think I've never seen those?Oneshotting kismet
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Here is Dominus choking out DC's eternity like a *****
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Need me to remind what happened when superman dragged him to theta state? Or do you want me to post superman singing out a being who was dragging the entire multiverse alongside him?
So Kismet is a jobber like Eternity? That's your point? So your point is that Superman is high abstract now? How would T-Vo help him when Odin already knocked him out? Does T-Vo work when he's unconscious on the floor or dead? Superman pulls out T-Vo every time? Odin has pre-cog and would knock this chump out before he even decides to use T-Vo.
Check out abstract Superman getting beaten up by a low herald that either Thor or Surfer would wreck. Where's you T-Vo now?
Untill starlin retconned Ka-zar did.😛 Surfer destroyed the body of original thanos if you want to know. Drax owned him by an anti-matter mine however weakened he was. Guess that's better than odin too. ABC logic does not work here.Feats too.
What's retconned is considered retcon. Nobody brings up PC feats unless poster states it's from start. Surfer destroyed which body? The first? Go read Thanos Quest where Death gave him a second body that was far more powerful than the first. He walked all over Surfer, Thor, and Drax in his second body. As for Drax, that was his 3rd body. No status was given on how it compared to the second. But the second was specifically stated to be more powerful than the first. Get your facts straight. Odin fought Thanos in his second body.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingHorrible Wonder Woman isn't low herald even on an off day. Thor or Surfer arent going to wreck her either 😬. Jesus christ...
Pre-Crises feats? What's your point again? Did he perform this post crises or something?Here's post crises against a pansy Probe.
Yeah it is. Superman on average is herald level. How can you say he isn't on that level consistantly when everything he does most high heralds and top tiers have done as well?
Which isn't Odin. Heck, I counter that. Heimdall with a fraction of Odin's power against Masterson Thor. So much for your nonsense. I've got instances, where Odin is poisoned and still wrecked an amped Annihilus in one shot whereas Thor failed to defeat after consistent battle.
And who are these ants again? Did one beat him or all? It's one low point that's it. You got more than this? Odin consistently crushes top tiers and heralds and beats down skyfathers and hell lord class beings. Superman good showings against these guys but not consistently. He doesn't always beat or stalemate skyfathers or treat herald/top tiers like children.
And Thor absorbed enough power to destroy 1/5 the universe into Mljornir. BRB cracked Galactus' armor. Odin would still stomp both of them.
Where does he one shot Mordru. Scans? Yes, I'll take this route. You have few poor examples and try to play it up while taking the high end feats to try and play up these herald level hero? Please, Odin one-pimp Surfer, Annihilus, Ulik, and Drax. He beat skyfather level beings like Forsung, Majestrix Zehlia, Seth, Infinity, Surtur, and Ymir.
Superman has troubles with punks like Zod and Konvict among a list of other bricks. His average isn't comparable to Odin's who's average is beating up other skyfathers.
So Kismet is a jobber like Eternity? That's your point? So your point is that Superman is high abstract now? How would T-Vo help him when Odin already knocked him out? Does T-Vo work when he's unconscious on the floor or dead? Superman pulls out T-Vo every time? Odin has pre-cog and would knock this chump out before he even decides to use T-Vo.
Check out abstract Superman getting beaten up by a low herald that either Thor or Surfer would wreck. Where's you T-Vo now?
What's retconned is considered retcon. Nobody brings up PC feats unless poster states it's from start. Surfer destroyed which body? The first? Go read Thanos Quest where Death gave him a second body that was far more powerful than the first. He walked all over Surfer, Thor, and Drax in his second body. As for Drax, that was his 3rd body. No status was given on how it compared to the second. But the second was specifically stated to be more powerful than the first. Get your facts straight. Odin fought Thanos in his second body.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingOdin isn't going to mindrape Superman.
Odin knowing about T-Vo means Odin attacking Superman any attack including mindraping before Superman even has a chance to pull off T-Vo. If he knows ahead of time, he would know Superman's head off before Superman could even think about using said attack on Odin.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingYeah, right. Post all those scenes of odin omniblasting intangible beings.
And doing what to Odin who can still hit him while he's intangible? Please, your getting silly if you think turning intangible stops Odin from hitting him.
T-Vo? Right, like those times when he got his head knocked in by another brick or Orion?No.
And those other times he's deployed it huh?CIS.
ThisCool story bro. You posted nothing I didn't know or anything relevant at all.
The guy who's vulnerable to magic is going to out punch a skyfather? You mean like this?Suckerpunch and luck. Later he took 9 shazam bolts and all it did was make him bleed. He's also taken shots from both an Indian shaman and an elder goddess who wtfpwned spectre.Cool story bro.
Odin wrecks stars and galaxy, this SuperFool knocked him the F### out against a moon.Mcduffie accepted he nerfed superman. That was a nerfed superman. Odin at his angriest couldn't even ko thor, superman made him eat dirt.
