Originally posted by GenomeFrozener
So...
Is it wrong for me to think Nihilus would have a good dinner here?
Vitiate' defensive abilities are very very good. And it would be unwise to assume that Vitiate does not have knowledge of applications of Force Drain and Sever Force. Vitiate arguably used Sever Force technique to strip Drammath from his powers and he was only 10 during this encounter. Though it is unclear if Nihilus' attack can be countered (open to speculation). However, Vitiate can eliminate Nihilus without much effort.
Originally posted by KingD19
Vitiate has done essentially the same thing as Nihilus, and more. Plus he was able to outmatch the Revan, who surpassed the Exile.
Vitiate with the assistance of 8,000 Sith Lords,a dark ritual and planetary-wide sacrifice that took days to prepare and complete helped him out. It wasn't nearly as cut and dry as with Nihilus, popping out of hyperspace and nomming the planet cause he was hungry. 😛 😉
Vitiate it appears that he has created an "artificial void"(Drew Karpyshyn doesn't even know that the Exile being a Wound in the Force shouldn't have any problem walking on the surface of Nathema,I think Drew was high back that day)
Anyway let's get back to our sheeps...
While Vitiate seems that he did the same thing as Nihilus' hunger does,that's not entirely true...
For example,Vitiate fed off of midi-chlorians(like he would have had sucked them of energy and induced the planet into a status of inactivity and coldness)
While Nihilus,imagine that he doesn't just fed off of midi-chlorians(Force) he also destroyes them in turn.
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Vitiate with the assistance of 8,000 Sith Lords,a dark ritual and planetary-wide sacrifice that took days to prepare and complete helped him out. It wasn't nearly as cut and dry as with Nihilus, popping out of hyperspace and nomming the planet cause he was hungry. 😛 😉
As for the ritual orchestrated by Vitiate, thousands of Sith Lords performed it to create the largest nexus of the dark side ever on Medriaas. But Vitiate turned on his followers and drew on the power of the nexus to consume all biota on Medriaas (including the Sith Lords who aided him). This nexus-augmented Force Drain attack was so powerful that it utterly obliterated even the physical bodies of every living being it touched, destroyed the atmosphere of Medriaas, and even consumed the Force energy itself surrounding the planet.
While you claim that the ritual was beneficial to Vitiate, it was not. Vitiate took as much risk as any other participant, difference is that Vitiate was already supremely strong in the dark side and therefore able to control the outcome of the ritual.
Vitiate, as his power grew and command of the dark side increased with passage of time, eventually acquired the strength to pull-off Nathema on his own (during the era of Revan perhaps). However, he became focused on preparations for a ritual of much greater scope and did not risk performing Nathema again or his plans would have been compromised.
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Vitiate it appears that he has created an "artificial void"(Drew Karpyshyn doesn't even know that the Exile being a Wound in the Force shouldn't have any problem walking on the surface of Nathema,I think Drew was high back that day)
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Anyway let's get back to our sheeps...While Vitiate seems that he did the same thing as Nihilus' hunger does,that's not entirely true...
For example,Vitiate fed off of midi-chlorians(like he would have had sucked them of energy and induced the planet into a status of inactivity and coldness)
While Nihilus,imagine that he doesn't just fed off of midi-chlorians(Force) he also destroyes them in turn.
Also, do keep in mind that Visas Marr survived Nihilus' attack on Katarr but was unconscious when Nihilus found her. Therefore, your assertion that Nihilus manages to eliminate the physical bodies of his victims with his Force Drain powers, is unfounded.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nihilus does not need to prepare to do that - sources say he can do it with a mere "thought."
I have more respect for you here than probably anyone else, but I feel we been through this before.
Their happens to be a contradiction in this matter at official capacity then:
"This datacron holds unheard of power and knowledge collected by an ancient race. You access its power and discover writings which are clearly only one small piece of a massive galactic history: The forces of the Sith Triumvirate had hunted the Jedi almost to extinction. The Jedi Exile, cut off from the Force, went in search of the remaining Jedi Masters and, perhaps, an explanation. But the Exile's mentor, Kreia, had other plans–when the Exile finally gathered the Masters, Kreia slew them all. As the Exile recovered from this encounter, Kreia deliberately enticed the terrible Darth Nihilus to the planet Telos Four. Nihilus prepared to devour all life on the planet, and Nihilus's dreadnought, the Ravager, was met by the Republic Navy and Mandalorian forces. During the battle, the Exile boarded the Ravager and faced Nihilus. Unable to devour the Exile as he had so many others, Nihilus was finally defeated. With Telos safe, the Exile pursued Kreia."
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic
An attack of planetary-scale shall realistically require preparation beforehand. Visas' elaboration implies Sith Sorcery or a ritualistic action in the works.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This is a chance based game.Vitiate' defensive abilities are very very good. And it would be unwise to assume that Vitiate does not have knowledge of applications of Force Drain and Sever Force. Vitiate arguably used Sever Force technique to strip Drammath from his powers and he was only 10 during this encounter. Though it is unclear if Nihilus' attack can be countered (open to speculation). However, Vitiate can eliminate Nihilus without much effort.
This was actually an intelligent post until the last line.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That codex entry is inaccurate in terms of describing that event. He wasn't met with those forces, they came after his arrival.
Also, the fact he "prepared" doesn't remotely mean a ritual. Preparing could easily mean he prepared his forces to go to Telos.
The 'battle' of Telos IV had begun before the Exile got the chance to confront Nihilus. Even though Nihilus' flagship was stationed close to Telos IV, he did not consume the world throughout the span of the battle.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
It is not.The 'battle' of Telos IV had begun before the Exile got the chance to confront Nihilus. Even though Nihilus' flagship was stationed close to Telos IV, he did not consume the world throughout the span of the battle.
You utterly misunderstood.
I meant Nihilus came before the Republic armada - which is true.
The codex says otherwise.