Can any non-abstract defeat the Celestials?

Started by Mindset12 pages

Originally posted by vansonbee
Actually the one with short brown hair is a female cross-dressing.
What does that have to do with anything?

Vanson likes to justify his fapping.

Starbrand?
And, I guess that the Captain Britain world has some pretty freaky heavy-hitters. But, I don't know a lot about them.
Maybe Korvac.

Does Doom count as a non-abstract?

If not, then I suspect Deadpool could make a Celestial commit suicide out of sheer frustration.

Magus. Warlock's daddy could possibly take a crack at a Celestial.
http://marvel.com/universe/Magus_%28Technarchy%29

Without the PIS of people constantly rewriting genetic code, or messing with the techno-organic virus, he would be a universal threat.

At more than .5 astronomical unit in size, unlimited power, strength, regeneration, shapeshifting, and God knows what other abilities, the Magus has been shown to tear a star in half with his hands.

If you leave out all the x-men bs, I think he's a contender.

^ Sounds impressive.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Sounds impressive.
Yeah, but he has always been written terribly. You don't create a character with those stats and then have him constantly beaten by mid-level characters.

Bad business.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Magus. Warlock's daddy could possibly take a crack at a Celestial.
http://marvel.com/universe/Magus_%28Technarchy%29

Without the PIS of people constantly rewriting genetic code, or messing with the techno-organic virus, he would be a universal threat.

At more than .5 astronomical unit in size, unlimited power, strength, regeneration, shapeshifting, and God knows what other abilities, the Magus has been shown to tear a star in half with his hands.

If you leave out all the x-men bs, I think he's a contender.


Meh, Classic Drax the Destroyer ripped a star in half. So there goes Magus' best on panel feat. Regarding fights, who has he fought against that makes you believe he can hang with a Celestial (barring hyperspace weakness)?
Originally posted by Horrificus
Yeah, but he has always been written terribly. You don't create a character with those stats and then have him constantly beaten by mid-level characters.

Bad business.


People could say the same thing about the PF. Back during the Dark Phoenix Saga, Reed's instruments said DP Jean's power level could rival those of Galactus and that was when she admitted her power was still finite but growing.

And yet................ 😛

Originally posted by guy222
and ppl tend to forget exitar did reappear in a thor one shot

Are you referring to the RKT storyline ? Wasn't that just a recollection on Thor's part ?

If you're not referring to that arc , then which story are you talking about guy ?

its not rkt storyline friend

i will look for the scan 🙂

its a one off thor issue in which exitar makes a one page reappearance

Hey! I'm watching Prince of Darkness Right Now! (Thank you Netflix.)

Very cool.
I always wondered what John Carpenter meant by that "the God Plutonium" statement.
Was it referring to an old name of God?
Was it referring to how mankind fears bombs made with plutonium?
Or, was it a reference to the God "Pluto"?

Know what I mean?

and... you are wrong about Magus. 😎

Originally posted by guy222
its not rkt storyline friend

i will look for the scan 🙂

its a one off thor issue in which exitar makes a one page reappearance

'Evenin' Guy.
How do?

Originally posted by Horrificus
Hey! I'm watching Prince of Darkness Right Now! (Thank you Netflix.)

Very cool.
I always wondered what John Carpenter meant by that "the God Plutonium" statement.
Was it referring to an old name of God?
Was it referring to how mankind fears bombs made with plutonium?
Or, was it a reference to the God "Pluto"?

Know what I mean?

and... you are wrong about Magus. 😎


Nukes, he was referring to "our" best/most powerful weapons. That they'd be useless against him.

But regarding the Magus, in all seriousness, he's done nothing impressive on panel though. I view him as high trans, at most, and that's being generous.

^ Something that, at its peak, is more than 50 times the size of the sun and casually tears apart stars is not a Trans level character.

Originally posted by Horrificus
and... you are wrong about Magus. 😎
👆

Kang.

Originally posted by Bentley
Kang.
Is useless.

But what does that have to do with this thread?

Originally posted by ODG
^ Something that, at its peak, is more than 50 times the size of the sun and casually tears apart stars is not a Trans level character. 👆

Drax tore apart a sun and fought more impressive foes than Magus.

Originally posted by zopzop
Drax tore apart a sun and fought more impressive foes than Magus.
Drax tore apart a starcore, causing it to nova. And he didn't do it casually, at all. That's a massive distinction. You obviously have at least some sense in recognizing that distinction since you already placed Magus at high Trans and not Drax.

And don't bother appealing to "Drax fought more impressive foes." This isn't about Drax's opponents or Magus' opponents. This is about a being that dwarfed our Sun and ripped entire stars apart in half as casually as Hulk would tear apart a tank. And Trans characters like the Destroyer, Despero and H/P Doomsday don't do that.

Originally posted by ODG
Drax tore apart a starcore, causing it to nova. And he didn't do it casually, at all. That's a massive distinction. You obviously have at least some sense in recognizing that distinction since you already placed Magus at high Trans and not Drax.

And don't bother appealing to "Drax fought more impressive foes." This isn't about Drax's opponents or Magus' opponents. This is about a being that dwarfed our Sun and ripped entire stars apart in half as casually as Hulk would tear apart a tank. And Trans characters like the Destroyer, Despero and H/P Doomsday don't do that.

Yeah, it's true. Stat for stat, Magus is the "real deal".
He should have been used in more cosmic stories. Having him fighting (and losing to) a handful of mutants is misuse.

Originally posted by ODG
Drax tore apart a starcore, causing it to nova. And he didn't do it casually, at all. That's a massive distinction. You obviously have at least some sense in recognizing that distinction since you already placed Magus at high Trans and not Drax.

And don't bother appealing to "Drax fought more impressive foes." This isn't about Drax's opponents or Magus' opponents. This is about a being that dwarfed our Sun and ripped entire stars apart in half as casually as Hulk would tear apart a tank. And Trans characters like the Destroyer, Despero and H/P Doomsday don't do that.


Yeah and Drax destroyed an entire planet, ripped a star apart, and survived a fight with Thanos that wrecked the planet they were fighting on.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/8/82487/1549139-draxstarbusting_super.jpg
I don't get it, Magus did nothing any competent High Herald couldn't do on panel. Hell, Silver Surfer/Herald Deadpool threw a star at each other.

Magus tore a star apart and lost to Colossus/Rogue/Nightcrawler and couldn't convincingly put down the New Mutants (sure they ran but I mean it's the New Mutants with some sad members like classic Sunspot, Wolfsbane, etc...).

Originally posted by Horrificus
Yeah, it's true. Stat for stat, Magus is the "real deal".
He should have been used in more cosmic stories. Having him fighting (and losing to) a handful of mutants is misuse.

But he has nothing to show for it on panel now does he? This is the Shuma Gorath fiasco all over again.