Can any non-abstract defeat the Celestials?

Started by Mindset12 pages
Mindset Senior Member

"Kang can win." - Said no one ever.

Horrificus Senior Member

Well, Ghaur became a Celestial, after stealing the power of Tiamut. And, then the Uni-Mind defeated him.

Would that be a victory over a Celestial, or are there more details that negate this feat?

Just throwing that out there. I don't remember all the details.

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by Horrificus
Well, Ghaur became a Celestial, after stealing the power of Tiamut. And, then the Uni-Mind defeated him.

Would that be a victory over a Celestial, or are there more details that negate this feat?

Just throwing that out there. I don't remember all the details.


Ghaur also started falling victim to Tiamut's influence iirc .

Ghaur's "victory" is much better applicable to Mr Sinister than the Deviant Priest himself .

Edit :-
Which is why my original :

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Mr Sinister .

is spot on . 👆

Bentley Seitei
Originally posted by Mindset
"Kang can win." - Said no one ever.

That's because everyone says Kang CONQUERS!!!

Doom fans say it while they touch themselves 😎

Horrificus Senior Member

Originally posted by zopzop
So you are saying stats from a handbook entry that appear nowhere on panel are kosher?
I just wanted to address this response to my "handbook entry" post.
I don't think that a handbook entry should be a trump card, or a solid qualifier, IF it is displaying information that is counter to book appearances.
BUT, if it is an actual company-issued handbook entry, (not just a wiki or fan opinion) and it is displaying information that is not blatantly contrary to on-panel showings, it should not be completely disregarded. Especially if there is some evidence that the handbook entry may be comparable to the on-panel showings.

For instance, Forum Member A makes a claim about a character. His claim is actually a "non-claim" that is based on the apparent absence of evidence in a book. Sometimes, Member A will make one of these non-claims, due to a lack of evidence, even though there may be statements made in the story that are counter to the non-claim.

In cases like these, yes, I think a handbook entry should trump a claim that is also non-existent on-panel.

In other words, if somebody is making a claim that is not supported by anything but their opinion, a handbook entry should be useable, as long as it isn't blatantly contrary to on-panel evidence.