Pre DCnU: Lobo vs Wonder Women

Originally posted by Galan007
Please don't put words in my mouth.

I never said one of those feats was more vaild than the other. Not once. I said that while both of the feats were stupid, throwing the stellar mass of Pulsar was less stupid/space-cheesy then slowing down Spectre's 'infinite mass'. Suggesting otherwise shows me your bias toward Dianna... And despite what you suggested, I've yet to use that feat on behalf of Lobo. Why would I? It lends nothing to this particular battle.

Anyway, to be even clearer:
Lifting stellar mass is dumb. Lifting infinity is dumber. Stellar mass can actually be quantified. Infinity cannot.

No need to make this more than it is. 🙂

"To be fair, tossing around Pulsar Stargrave really isn't space cheese in the sense that moving Spectre's 'infinite' weight is. The former is [a lot] more quantifiable than the latter. "

In short, just because it's more quantifiable than the infinite weight thing, it means that it's less space cheese and more valid [because the discussion at hand was on space cheese being invalid when comparing characters]. Why? Because you say so.

What is 'space cheese' isn't based on whether or not the feat is quantifiable or not. Surfer destroying a planet, Kyle destroying a supernova, Superman holding a black hole in his palm or, yes, Lobo dragging a sun are all moderately quantifiable, and they don't stop being space cheese for that, the same way Superman cauterizing space/time with his HV or lifting infinite weight also fits that category by definition - what differs being, of course, the magnitude (ie. lifting infinite weight > containing blackhole > destroying planet etc.) It's an arbitrary criteria that doesn't hold under any kind of logical scrutinity.

You're essentially saying that because Lobo's feat is less impressive [ie. stellar mass compared to infinite weight] then it means that is holds more validity, which is a hilariously stupid method to debate.

Originally posted by Philosophía
You tried to save the validity of the Lobo feat by saying that it is, and I quote [so you don't cry again that I'm putting words into your mouth]:

"To be fair, tossing around Pulsar Stargrave really isn't space cheese in the sense that moving Spectre's 'infinite' weight is. The former is [a lot] more quantifiable than the latter. "

In short, just because it's more quantifiable than the infinite weight thing, it means that it's less space cheese and more valid [because the discussion at hand was on space cheese being invalid when comparing characters]. Why? Because you say so.

What is 'space cheese' isn't based on whether or not the feat is quantifiable or not. Surfer destroying a planet, Kyle destroying a supernova or, yes, Lobo dragging a sun are all moderately quantifiable, and they don't stop being space cheese for that. It's an arbitrary criteria that doesn't hold under any kind of logical scrutinity.

You're essentially saying that because Lobo's feat is less impressive [ie. stellar mass compared to infinite weight] then it means that is holds more validity, which is a hilariously stupid method to debate.

Look, I get that you're trying to play the role of abhil's white knight, but there are better ways to do it than arguing about which feat is dumber, in a thread where the dumb feats in question don't even matter. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
One feat is dumb. The other feat is dumbER. Why? Because shifting stellar mass is quantifiable. Shifting infinity is not. There is nothing more to 'debate'.

Look, I get that you're trying to play the role of abhil's white knight, but there are better ways to do it than arguing about which feat is dumber, in a thread where the dumb feats in question don't even matter. 👆

The problem I had with you was that you seemingly tried to save Lobo's feat as 'valid' by saying it's less dumb than the Spectre one - but as long as you agree that they're both dumb space cheese that are irrelevant to actual fights, there's nothing we disagree on.

I'm not abhil's white knight - but I call out on stupid stuff when I see them (ie. Id's backahanded "you're hypocritical"😉

Originally posted by Philosophía
I agree with all of what you wrote there [except the white knight part]

The problem I had with you was that you seemingly tried to save Lobo's feat as 'valid' by saying it's less dumb than the Spectre one - but as long as you agree that they're both dumb space cheese that are irrelevant to actual fights, there's nothing we disagree on.

I'm not abhil's white knight - but I call out on stupid stuff when I see them (ie. Id's backahanded "you're hypocritical"😉

...But just so you know, I said the same damn thing a few posts ago. 😉

Hey Philo, Lobo stronger than Diana. Wondy has nothing that compares to crushing trillion tons matter.

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool. 👆

...But just so you know, I said the same damn thing a few posts ago. 😉

Miscommunication, I guess. I'm still curious on how you know abhil's anus is so charming.

Originally posted by Galan007
abhil's white knight

Originally posted by psycho gundam
👆

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm still curious on how you know abhil's anus is so charming.

👆

Lobo. Although I think Diana is strong enough to crush a trillion tons if she wanted to.

Originally posted by "Id"
Hey Philo, Lobo stronger than Diana. Wondy has nothing that compares to crushing trillion tons matter.

Originally posted by Galan007
His anus has ensnared you, so I figure he must be a pretty good lay. He's Indian, though.... So perhaps it's the exotic booty that has you all riled up.

👆

If on KMC that makes me a man-booty lover, so be it.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm just one of the few that isn't so interested in bullying him around in every thread he's in.

If on KMC that makes me a man-booty lover, so be it.

You are a huge queer, though. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
You are huge

If I didn't know any better, I'd say you want my dick.

That is disgusting.

Reported.

Originally posted by Galan007
That is disgusting.

Reported.

Grow a stomach.

True.

I take back the report. Raz has been notified of the situation. 👆

Originally posted by "Id"
Canonical, as the events where recalled by Lobo on 52.

It has nothing to do with canonicity. Crossovers aren't allowed on KMC otherwise I can post people remembering DC vs Marvel too.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
[B][center]Comic book crossovers are usually unusable as they ignore common sense most of the time (DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates!).

This includes [b]JLA/Avengers. Canon or not, people just aren't going to agree on it in most cases.
[/B]

>dumbs down the feat by labling as space cheese.

>uses space cheese to claim a superior feat.

>durbating. http://images.killermovies.com/forums/customsmilies/thumbsupdur.gif [/B]

Fail much?

Originally posted by "Id"
Hey Philo, Lobo stronger than Diana. Wondy has nothing that compares to crushing trillion tons matter.

Its momentum was so much that they had to nullify lunar gravity so that earth doesn't break apart and even every mage on earth couldn't do it for long. What's even more amazing that they literally in one second pulled moon travelling at that speed away from earth.

They also moved the moon back to its place in the time it took atom to find out that j'onn was alive

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/JLA05821.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/JLA05822.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/JLA05823.jpg

Even if she only managed a small part of that ordeal which is rather unlikely, its still greater than your lobo example.

😂 @ thread

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well moon is 7.35x10E7 trillion tons. Superman, kyle and diana moved it in between a sentence from its position from earth to earth's atmosphere

Its momentum was so much that they had to nullify lunar gravity so that earth doesn't break apart and even every mage on earth couldn't do it for long. What's even more amazing that they literally in one second pulled moon travelling at that speed away from earth.

They also moved the moon back to its place in the time it took atom to find out that j'onn was alive

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/JLA05821.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/JLA05822.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/JLA05823.jpg

Even if she only managed a small part of that ordeal which is rather unlikely, its still greater than your lobo example.

Dur Space Cheese. Dur harder.

Originally posted by abhilegend
They already met in WW v2 60. Lobo slapped her away and then got incapacitated by her lasso. This could go either way if lobo avoids the lasso. Strength wise lobo has a small edge or equal, durability is even, speed goes to diana, HF goes to lobo.

I am in agreement with this statement.