War of the Phoenix's

Originally posted by ODG
To put it in internet terms, you've been told all this before, so the troll act is unnecessary and wasted. Don't worry though, you'll be told all this again. There's always someone willing to ram your theory back down your throat.

I don't have the propensity for copy-pasting spammed drivel like you.

When you're able to overturn forum rules and have alternate universes and outdated handbook entries override more current, on-panel evidence, let us know. I invite you to request a mod ruling.

Im guilty of none of that.

What you are guilty of is of making false accusations, riding on the coat tails of others to compensate for laziness and a lack of anything of real substance to contribute 😬

If youre going to disagree or attempt to counter then come up with the goods sir. Right now youre all mouth and no trousers. 🙂

Name me one modern officially referenced origin story for the multiverse.

I dare ya! 😱

^ Your cries for attention are wasted here. I'm not going to indulge your wretched bids to once again willfully and blatantly ignore all of the evidence posted throughout all the conversations you and others have had with you on this topic.

You're a running joke that shadows the forums every once in a blue moon and when you sense your favorite character (and her myth) losing favor precipitously, you blunder back in with diatribe-laced spam and predictions of published vindication that backfire spectacularly. But the entire point of your act is to either bore or frustrate naysayers in a rather vain hope to effect damage control on a character nobody really cares about and never has.

I've stated it as dryly as I can, but let me repeat myself: I've got no interest in re-engaging your feigned attempts at a constructive discussion. You've never truly cared for it because they've always led to your arguments being busted and ridiculed. But you pretend to and that's your prerogative. But the act is tired and rather futile considering the state of the character today and the established story of the Marvel Universe/Multiverse.

In the end though, here in this thread, all that's required is to point out that what you presented in your initial post was an alternate universe story that is outdated and tangentially supported by conflicting handbook entries. And you can hug that for dear life all you want. But acting like that actually merits another repeated deconstruction is delusional.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Your cries for attention are wasted here. I'm not going to indulge your wretched bids to once again willfully and blatantly ignore all of the evidence posted throughout all the conversations you and others have had with you on this topic.

You're a running joke that shadows the forums every once in a blue moon and when you sense your favorite character (and her myth) losing favor precipitously, you blunder back in with diatribe-laced spam and predictions of published vindication that backfire spectacularly. But the entire point of your act is to either bore or frustrate naysayers in a rather vain hope to effect damage control on a character nobody really cares about and never has.

I've stated it as dryly as I can, but let me repeat myself: I've got no interest in re-engaging your feigned attempts at a constructive discussion. You've never truly cared for it because they've always led to your arguments being busted and ridiculed. But you pretend to and that's your prerogative. But the act is tired and rather futile considering the state of the character today and the established story of the Marvel Universe/Multiverse.

In the end though, here in this thread, all that's required is to point out that what you presented in your initial post was an alternate universe story that is outdated and tangentially supported by conflicting handbook entries. And you can hug that for dear life all you want. But acting like that actually merits another repeated deconstruction is delusional.

So in other words you dont have shit

In no capacity whatsoever have you ever busted any of my arguments.

You come in here with your verbose pretentious waffle, telling me my theory is wrong merely because alternatives are presented that you like the sound of better whilst ignoring the fact that marvel tells us through additional official sources like handbooks which on panel theory is officially endorsed. You are the height of arrogance.

End your life.

Swiftly 😱

Originally posted by RyanAutumns
In an all out war between the Avatar's of the Phoenix Force (taking place in the White-Hot Room), who will be the last Phoenix standing?

*Phoenix Rachel Grey
*Dark Phoenix Cyclops
*Phoenix 5 Emma Frost
*Phoenix 5 Namor
*Phoenix 5 Magik
*Phoenix 5 Colossus
*"AoA" Phoenix Jean Grey
*"Ultimate" Phoenix Jean Grey
*"Zombieverse" Phoenix Jean Grey
*Phoenix Cassandra Nova (X-Men: The End)
*White Phoenix Hope Summers
*Phoenix Giraud
*Phoenix Celeste Cukoo
*Phoenix Captain Marvel
*Goblin Queen Madelyne Pryor-Summers
*Phoenix Vulcun

After defeating Apocalypse Ultimate Phoenix Jean Grey showed an ability to rewrite timelines with a thought without causing the creation of a divergent reality.

Phoenix Vulcan can absorb the Force from other avatars

Hope Phoenix was able to dispel the force over reality to undo Wandas No More Mutants spell that Dr Strange said was so interwoven across the multiverse any attempt to undo it could destroy all reality.

Rachel Phoenix is the longest wielder and has a strong bond with the power and many great feats, but many low ones due to her being a mainstay on a team.

All the others are non factors.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Incorrect.

X-men Adventures was written approximately in 93/94 a point in time when the M'kraan crystal was a universal artifact.

Following the Age Of Apocalypse Saga it was retconned into a multiversal object-

Once this retcon became acknowledged company wide this had the effect of making that one time universal story, turn multiversal and then Marvel went ahead and made X-men Adventures Galactus' origin and the end of the previous marvel multiverse 😄

The M'kraan crystals most recent bio states clearly that as per current continuity it is a multiversal object and that if destroyed or its power fully unleashed it will destroy and then recreate the multiverse

👆
Good find on the crystal being retconned.

I always believed this to be the orgin of the current MU.
No bio (tmk) states these events being relative to an alternate universe as of this present time. Even before now I could never fathom the possibility of Galactus being born from an alternate universe that existed billions of years before current 616.