Originally posted by CogitoIf that's adressed to me - Superman bench-pressing Earth, out of the sun, for 5 days and saying "That's it?" is the highlight of his entire career ever since the Silver Age and is essentially a Silver Age feat itself.
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It's not really fair to base everything from now on this feat and say Superman rolls every Marvel characters in a ball and calls it a day, which is why I said "based on the recent feat".
Let's not blow one scan out of proportion.
I have admitted on this forum many times that I have a DC bias. That's still true, and likely always will be. But I'm not about to run out and proclaim Superman to be stronger than Marvel's best combined without some history or consistent portrayal as such.
Until that time, I'll treat this feat as an outlier...just like I do the infinite weight book (which trumps the weight of the Earth like...an infinite times over)
Originally posted by Cogito
Let's not blow one scan out of proportion.I have admitted on this forum many times that I have a DC bias. That's still true, and likely always will be. But I'm not about to run out and proclaim Superman to be stronger than Marvel's best combined without some history or consistent portrayal as such.
Until that time, I'll treat this feat as an outlier...just like I do the infinite weight book (which trumps the weight of the Earth like...an infinite times over)
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Originally posted by CogitoI never said we should take only this feat at face value and say that Marvel never has a chance against Superman now - thus the "based on the recent feat" part.
But I'm not about to run out and proclaim Superman to be stronger than Marvel's best combined without some history or consistent portrayal as such.
But it gives us a pretty clear look on how Superman compared to his old version, who was stronger than the strongest on that team (Thor)
Originally posted by CogitoYes, but you see - pre-Flashpoint Superman was consistently in need of help in order to move celestial bodies (be it the Moon or Earth) - and I mean this as in everyt time, and even failed to do so (see him trying to hold the Earth into orbit with Diana and J'onn, or in New Krypton). Now he moves the Earth, for five days, out of the sun, and is basically "eh, I can do better".
Until that time, I'll treat this feat as an outlier...just like I do the infinite weight book (which trumps the weight of the Earth like...an infinite times over)
That's insane.
If we want to add in all showings for the new superman then Superman has zero ****ing chance to do anything. But if we just base it off only the "I'm bench pressing the world for 5 days without his sun suit" superman then well I would believe he could pull team 2 into the mud, IDK about adding hulk....
Originally posted by Starscream M
do you realize how stupid strong superman is?
While I dont want to try and downplay this feat which was awesome it should be obvious that one feat is not the be all and end all of everything. At least not for an ongoing character like Superman who is going to rack up a lot of other appearances. If this is how Superman is consistently portrayed by everyone from here on out - great. But I doubt it.
I do think it shows that the idea that the character had been definitely powered down is obviously false. If there was such a deliberate decision it didnt last long in the chaos of modern DC editorial.