Superman vs Thor, Gladiator, Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill (w/ a twist)

Originally posted by Starscream M
stop bringing decade old feats

what has thor done in the past 5 years in strength?!

Canon is canon. Marvel doesn't do reboots for the most part. Selective ignorance is selective. If we're to ignore the feat entirely because it's old, then we're using different methods of arriving at a conclusion and our conversation is incompatible for actual debate.

srug

I actually don't think Thor's the key here. We know he has comparable but lower total strength than Kal. But we also know Surfer can amp to similar levels, Gladiator rests around the same, etc.

And "old" Superman, PC or mid-crises, has feats that put him in this range as well. The recent feat isn't anything new, so to speak, it just puts DCnU Superman around the same level he was before. This time it just puts a quantifiable total on it - whereas his other best feats are probably similar but don't have a number attached to them.

We like to glorify the new. The newest feats take precedence and seem greater than the rest. It happens with any character. But we're not dealing with a wildly stronger Superman imo. He'd win an arm-wrestling contest with any one of these guys, imo, but is sorely outmatched here.

Originally posted by Digi

We like to glorify the new. The newest feats take precedence and seem greater than the rest. It happens with any character.

Originally posted by Digi
Canon is canon. Marvel doesn't do reboots for the most part. Selective ignorance is selective. If we're to ignore the feat entirely because it's old, then we're using different methods of arriving at a conclusion and our conversation is incompatible for actual debate.

The important part:
The Serpent feat still isn't anywhere close to this feat, and that can be easily proven. Hell, it can be seen, as long as the posters in question read the actual issue where it happened.

Originally posted by Digi
I actually don't think Thor's the key here. We know he has comparable but lower total strength than Kal. But we also know Surfer can amp to similar levels, Gladiator rests around the same, etc.

Originally posted by Digi
And "old" Superman, PC or mid-crises, has feats that put him in this range as well. The recent feat isn't anything new, so to speak, it just puts DCnU Superman around the same level he was before. This time it just puts a quantifiable total on it - whereas his other best feats are probably similar but don't have a number attached to them

Now, if you want to argue consistency, if you want to argue "let's wait a bit more for him to gather more showings so we can even them out", I agree.

But let's not act like this feat doesn't put him considerably (as in, massively) above pre-Flashpoint Superman, who was stronger than anybody on the team.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so my question is, what is thor's most impressive quantifiable strength feat in the past 10 years...just give me one.

Its difficult to "quantify" feats on that scale...but the Asgard lift was impressive

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Naw, norrin is just that much better...learn to deal with it

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Yep. U high.

naw your just in denial

This is being closed soon. One, because it's a dumb-ass thread and Starscream should know better, and two, as impressive as the scan is, we need to see more.

While I am, frankly, over the moon with the scans that have been revealed, i'm not going to prematurely get my hopes up.

Though, yeah, **** the haters. That includes you, Sin.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Superman is godly in the presence of your weak Marvel characters. 🙂 🙂

Originally posted by -Pr-

Though, yeah, **** the haters. That includes you, Sin.

😛 ...love me!

Originally posted by Sin I AM
naw your just in denial

Superman is much stronger than Norin Borin.

keep telling yourself that

Give us feats of Surfer's strength. It's not even more impressive than PF.

Neither Superman nor Norrin would have an easy time against the other. It's one of the closest fights in comics, unless you think you can just argue powersets and get away with it.

Anyone who says otherwise? Shut up.

Originally posted by -Pr-
This is being closed soon. One, because it's a dumb-ass thread and Starscream should know better, and two, as impressive as the scan is, we need to see more.

While I am, frankly, over the moon with the scans that have been revealed, i'm not going to prematurely get my hopes up.

Though, yeah, **** the haters. That includes you, Sin.

Quick! Someone make a WB Hulk Vs. DCnU Supes thread!!! I nominate Starscream...

😉

Originally posted by -Pr-
Neither Superman nor Norrin would have an easy time against the other. It's one of the closest fights in comics, unless you think you can just argue powersets and get away with it.

Anyone who says otherwise? Shut up.

I was talking about a tug of war. A test of strength.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I was talking about a tug of war. A test of strength.

Norrin is still plenty strong. Not as strong as Superman, but not some kind of weakling.

Strength feats are lame. That's not his style anyway. Supes can lift/push/pull a planet all day and he' d still lose the maj to ss everytime

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Strength feats are lame. That's not his style anyway. Supes can lift/push/pull a planet all day and he' d still lose the maj to ss everytime

No, he really won't.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Strength feats are lame. That's not his style anyway. Supes can lift/push/pull a planet all day and he' d still lose the maj to ss everytime

But this is a TUG OF WAR thread. This isn't a regular fight.

their strength is comparable at normal levels and norrin can amp so im sure that it's either equal or slight edge to ss

And PR no