Darkseid vs. Avengers/F4/GoTG

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It's really obvious by now that DS would fare much better than Thanos against the same team

Originally posted by comicfan11
It's really obvious by now that DS would fare much better than Thanos against the same team

Based off what fts?

Originally posted by carver9
Based off what fts?

Dude you haven't answered my question earlier when I asked you about 5 times exactly the same thing and you expect me to take you seriously and acknowledge you in a debate?

Really?

Originally posted by carver9
Based off what fts?

If one guy gets beat up by aunt may, and another guy takes hits from Daredevil without flinching, it's pretty safe to say guy 2 beats guy 1... Yet you're asking for feats. lol

It's obvious!

Originally posted by Odekahn
If one guy gets beat up by aunt may, and another guy takes hits from Daredevil without flinching, it's pretty safe to say guy 2 beats guy 1... Yet you're asking for feats. lol

It's obvious!

this would only mean he (Guy 1) is below abstract level.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Either there's some miscommunication going on or you're replying to the wrong guy with this post.

I said that the best case scenario based on Breevort's opinion (If we accept it as anything more than another interpretation), that each hero struck Thanos once. Basically that page that shows all of them getting a lick in? Imagine Spider-Man, Giant Man and whatever other fodder that was around getting a hit in.

Anything going further than that is speculative fanboy nonsense.

What the heck are you talking about? When did I argue that this somehow negated all of Thanos' other feats? As a matter of fact, I explicitly said otherwise in this thread, however, there's no denying that this was a shitty showing and worse ones are a very real possibility in the future. It is a long time coming, if it wasn't for Starlin, I doubt Thanos would be better off than Darkseid by now.

For the record, that yellow smoke/dust/steam whatever coming off of Thanos proves nothing. Character's have had the exact same effect when being knocked into a building etc. under Bagley, as a matter of fact, a similar effect is present when Groot knocks Thanos into the ground.


Glad we agree that more than a handful of heroes hit Thanos. That's settled.

I didn't say you argued one low feat negates a character's past feats. I was addressing the fact that you called me an insecure fanboy for claiming that one low feat for a character doesn't negate a character's past feats. You called me an insecure fanboy, despite the fact that I agreed this was a low showing.

Yes, that yellow glowing smoke and arrows to the back (which you neglected to mention) does prove something. The fact that the arrows and the glowing smoke were on Thanos' back, yet all the attacks shown on panel were to Thanos' face, is evidence that people attacked him off-panel (and clearly shot/blasted/hit his back).

Originally posted by Parmaniac
this would only mean he (Guy 1) is below abstract level.

I guess pie is everyone's weakness... (Not that kind of pie you big dirties!)

Originally posted by vince_slice
The fact that the arrows and the glowing smoke were on Thanos' back

No, no. Not on his back. IN his back.

When Ollie looses a quiver in Darkseid's back, call me.

Still waiting for your answer vince_slice

How do these attacks from characters like Mr Fantastic, Spiderman, Hawkeye, Black Widow etc etc stack compared to a WW punch to the face or a pissed off GL attack?

Originally posted by Odekahn
If one guy gets beat up by aunt may, and another guy takes hits from Daredevil without flinching, it's pretty safe to say guy 2 beats guy 1... Yet you're asking for feats. lol

It's obvious!

None of those guys are on Thor or Hulk level so its not the same.

Originally posted by carver9
None of those guys are on Thor or Hulk level so its not the same.

I don't really get what you're trying to say here. I don't see how this is in any way a rebuttle to what I said. With that said, I'll just add...

Maybe Thanos should have called Aquarius and Taurus to help him with Hulk and Thor...

Is it me, or does Thanos come off looking worse with every re-read?

My main gripe with this comic is that besides knocking Groot aside, Thanos is unable to mount absolutely any offense and just comes off looking overall shitty with the look of horror, and the mocking he receives while he's on the ground. To make matters worse, the heroes didn't dog pile up on him but instead took turns punching him in the face.

This didn't look like Thor/Hulk and Avengers against a superior opponent. It looked like they teamed up to beat up another -out of control at least- Herald. At no point was there any possibility that Thanos could turn the tide or even that the Avengers were in danger, Bendis didn't even make the final beat-down look hard or strenuous.

That's disrespectful to Thanos imho.

Darkseid didn't even flinch when an angry supergirl (who was deemed stronger than superman atm) suckershotted him while weakened. Darkseid was always more durable than thanos.

Always? That's bullshit.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Always? That's bullshit.

Shush.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Is it me, or does Thanos come off looking worse with every re-read?

My main gripe with this comic is that besides knocking Groot aside, Thanos is unable to mount absolutely any offense and just comes off looking overall shitty with the look of horror, and the mocking he receives while he's on the ground. To make matters worse, the heroes didn't dog pile up on him but instead took turns punching him in the face.

This didn't look like Thor/Hulk and Avengers against a superior opponent. It looked like they teamed up to beat up another -out of control at least- Herald. At no point was there any possibility that Thanos could turn the tide or even that the Avengers were in danger, Bendis didn't even make the final beat-down look hard or strenuous.

That's disrespectful to Thanos imho.

SBP is mocking Thanos from hell.

Thanos has been pierced before, he had his heart ripped out of his chest by Drax. That was always attributed to Drax being Thanos' kryptonite, but now after cap punched him toothless and hawkeye filling his back with arrows, I don't know any more.

A random alien also cut him with a generic axe in Cosmic Powers 1.

Thanos never had the showings of being a team buster, especially a team of that magnitude and I don't understand why people threw those type of fts at him in the beginning anyways when overall, it was never there. Yes, he has trans level fts...killing Surfer, pushing Galactus, surviving Odin but wrecking teams of high order, hell no. This proved something that was needed a long time ago.

Lol...I guess that was the reason he mind controlled Hulk. Hulk did something that Thanos couldn't do and that was "lasting against a squad".

Originally posted by carver9
Thanos never had the showings of being a team buster, especially a team of that magnitude and I don't understand why people threw those type of fts at him in the beginning anyways when overall, it was never there. Yes, he has trans level fts...killing Surfer, pushing Galactus, surviving Odin but wrecking teams of high order, hell no. This proved something that was needed a long time ago.

Lol...I guess that was the reason he mind controlled Hulk. Hulk did something that Thanos couldn't do and that was "lasting against a squad".

That's like saying Superman is bulletproof, but if you fire enough cotton at him from every angle you'll be able to beat him.