Originally posted by carver9
Captain Marvel is strong but he isn't stronger than Thor and he sure as hell isn't physically stronger than Hulk.
Captain Marvel has stalemated or drawn Superman in contests of strength.
At worst, he's at least as strong as Thor is physically on the average. At best, he's stronger than him (by no means massively so) and stronger than a base Savage Hulk/calm Green Scar.
Originally posted by comicfan11
So Thor and Hulk combined are more powerful than 3 GL's (Alan, Stewart, Guy), Wonder Woman, Power Girl, Firestorm, Martian Manhunter, Obsidian and Geoforce. And Captain Marvel. ?
MM doesn't have the fts to suggest he packs more of a punch than Hulk or Thor. Wonder Woman doesn't hit as hard as the two either. Powergirl doesn't and Captain Marvel doesn't either "going by fts". Hulk before facing Thanos 3 punched a guy that was pretty much walking around with Herald level power. Thor, pretty much one of marvels hardest hitters. The people you named are strong but their fts doesn't hold up to Thor and Hulks punching power.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Captain Marvel has stalemated or drawn Superman in contests of strength.At worst, he's at least as strong as Thor is physically on the average. At best, he's stronger than him (by no means massively so) and stronger than a base Savage Hulk/calm Green Scar.
I know about Captain Marvel fts and what you've mentioned just isn't enough.
Huh? Stronger than Thor? What makes you say this?
WTF? He isn't stronger than a calm WWH?
Originally posted by carver9
MM doesn't have the fts to suggest he packs more of a punch than Hulk or Thor. Wonder Woman doesn't hit as hard as the two either. Powergirl doesn't and Captain Marvel doesn't either "going by fts". Hulk before facing Thanos 3 punched a guy that was pretty much walking around with Herald level power. Thor, pretty much one of marvels hardest hitters. The people you named are strong but their fts doesn't hold up to Thor and Hulks punching power.
First of all Captain Marvel and Alan Scott most definetely have feats that stack up to Thor and Hulk. Adding all the others is overkill in regards to overall power
Second and most important.
Who would win in a fight the characters I mentioned or Hulk and Thor?
Originally posted by comicfan11
First of all Captain Marvel and Alan Scott most definetely have feats that stack up to Thor and Hulk. Adding all the others is overkill in regards to overall powerSecond and most important.
Who would win in a fight the characters I mentioned or Hulk and Thor?
What strength fts does Captain Marvel have that puts him over Savage Hulk? I don't even need WWH for this.
Hulk has fought and stalemate powerful teams as well. This doesn't help your argument. Hulk has also handled things better than what Black Adam did during that fight as well (example, he was shot through with arrows and his face was near gone from a dose of heat vision from MM).
Originally posted by carver9
What strength fts does Captain Marvel have that puts him over Savage Hulk? I don't even need WWH for this.Hulk has fought and stalemate powerful teams as well. This doesn't help your argument. Hulk has also handled things better than what Black Adam did during that fight as well (example, he was shot through with arrows and his face was near gone from a dose of heat vision from MM).
Dude you are blatantly avoiding my question.
Do you believe Thor and Hulk would take out the team I mentioned?
Thor and Hulk vs 3 GL's (Alan, Guy, Stewart) Powergirl, WW, Martian Manhunter, Obsidian, Geoforce, Firestorm and Captain Marvel.
Who wins.
Simple as that.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t571565.html
Better take it here.
Darkseid was only really hurt by Superman (who can do things he shouldn't be able to), HP DD who was at his most powerful (a "rookie" DD had to be bfr by a suicide attack of a guardian, who were at least trans level then) and the Spectre. Lobo hurt his fist punching DS for example.
Thanos was rocked before by lesser attacks, even with the IG. It's even stated by the narrator that Thor could have killed him...
Masterson gave Thanos always a good fight, almost as good as Superman vs Darkseid.
But It's nothing new that Thanos feels the punches of "lesser" heroes, like Spiderman or Wolverine
I don't know how this BS that Thanos durability is greater then DS came into being but it is wrong, once I thought about it and compared their feats and portrayals it was clear. Darkseid is significantly more powertful then Thanos. He plays a greater role in his Multiverse, is physically stronger and sure as hell more durable.
His low showings are Superman (phucking Superman is never a low showing)
HP DD (who can hang with Trans beings for sure if not skyfathers)
Spectre
and who else? A pair of staris when he was without the Omega Force. Thanos has the NYPD.
Thanos low showings are few but he was rocked by Spiderman, Masterson (actually not that low), Gamora, Wolverine cut him (boneclaw iirc) and now his teeth fall of if CA or Vision hits him, he bleeds like a virgin at her first time and spits blood...
NU DS took on a rookie JLA, yes, but they are 100 tonners, AQ too. And they could do shit to hurt him, except for enchanced weapons and even then they had to quickly bfr him or else he would kick their butts again.
DS even NU DS beats this team, they will make him work for it, maybe even harder then the rookie JLA but he will win. This team has the unfortunate Thor who gets always one shotted, a Rulk who is past his prime, who gets his arm broken, is defeated by Wonderman and Hulk who is still uber, i give you that. The others won't be a huge factor, they will delay the inevitable, nothing more.
Thanos was never on DS level imho, only with artefacts.
Originally posted by Philosophía
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t571565.htmlBetter take it here.
hah nice
let's see what happens
Originally posted by carver9
Did Black Adam beat them?
Dude doesn't work like that.
You are to afraid to answer my question (which I asked 3 times already) and expect me to take you seriously?
again
Thor and Hulk vs 3 GL's (Alan, Guy, Stewart) Powergirl, WW, Martian Manhunter, Obsidian, Geoforce, Firestorm and Captain Marvel.
Who wins.
Simple as that.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Welcome to carterland.
unfortunately It's not my first trip there.
is this dude really expecting anyone to take him seriously when he blatantly ignores your (random poster) questions and the he expects you (random poster) to answer his questions?
in what universe does that work?