Comic...
Even though Darkseid koed THAT version of Supes doesn't mean that he will do the same to some of these people here. Superman having one good showing doesn't change this. During that time, Superman fts didn't weigh up to Marvels best and using one showing, his recent showing, doesn't change this either. Wonder Woman also had a decent showing against Darkseid and had a slight advantage at one point.
The team was inexperienced and opened themselves up for an attack. I can't picture this version of Darkseid doing this to the Pre Reboot versions of the JLA, can you? They have fts, experienced, and tactical (and Superman or Wonder Woman would solo based off fts).
Until we see more from this Darkseid, Thor or Hulk kills him imo and again, this is based purely off showings. Darkseid doesn't have anything proving he can take out this team and basing this off of showings against people "we have no clear understanding of their durability" doesn't change this.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You also have the realize that team that fought Darkseid was young and inexperienced and didn't have the luxury of the feats that this seasoned group of three teams has.
I already acknowledged that.
But you have to acknowledge that what it boils down to is that NuDS NO SOLD a continuous, simultaneous barage of 100 toners wailing on him.
It did nothing.
They couldn't restrain him, much less make him bleed or spit teeth (with the exception of Aquaman stabbing him in the chest nut Aquaman's Trident is already established as an INDESTRUCTIBLE atlantean artifact-weapon in current continuity).
Inexperienced or not, a blitzing Supes is way more powerful than a punch from Vision, a shield strike from Cap, or Rulk's punches.
And that's what NuDS laughed at.
Plus inexperienced or not NuDS was abusing WW with one hand, while the League was still attacking him. He was beating a 100 toner one handed.
Originally posted by comicfan11
I already acknowledged that.But you have to acknowledge that what it boils down to is that NuDS NO SOLD a continuous, simultaneous barage of 100 toners wailing on him.
It did nothing.
They couldn't restrain him, much less make him bleed or spit teeth (with the exception of Aquaman stabbing him in the chest nut Aquaman's Trident is already established as an INDESTRUCTIBLE atlantean artifact-weapon in current continuity).Inexperienced or not, a blitzing Supes is way more powerful than a punch from Vision, a shield strike from Cap, or Rulk's punches.
And that's what NuDS laughed at.
Plus inexperienced or not NuDS was abusing WW with one hand, while the League was still attacking him. He was beating a 100 toner one handed.
Thor and Hulk have the DCnU incarnations of the League beat in feats, though. They wouldn't beat them all just the two of them, but Thor and Hulk have better overall feats than any single member of the debuting League and have beaten or messed up beings just as powerful, if not more so, than DCnU Darkseid.
Backed with the legion of heroes that jumped Thanos, I legitimately have a hard time seeing how either depiction of Darkseid wins this.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor and Hulk have the DCnU incarnations of the League beat in feats, though. They wouldn't beat them all just the two of them, but Thor and Hulk have better overall feats than any single member of the debuting League and have beaten or messed up beings just as powerful, if not more so, than DCnU Darkseid.Backed with the legion of heroes that jumped Thanos, I legitimately have a hard time seeing how either depiction of Darkseid wins this.
The it all depends on how powerful you think the NuDC League is.
When they fought DS 5 years ago (in NuDC continuity) WW, GL, Flash and Aquaman would have exactly the same powers.
These charaters' strength doesn't rely on time passed.
Aquaman, WW and GL don't grow stronger as time passes unless there is a specific upgrade-power up. More experienced, more skilled sure but a punch from WW then was still 100 ton as it is now.
Superman with his sun absorption might grow stronger over time, but even then he was the League's bug gun. Stated on panel.
Of course Thor and Hulk have more feats than the NuLeague BUT apart from those two all the others would still be below Supes, WW, Flash and GL IMO.
Against that opposition I truly believe NuDS would at least do way better than Thanos.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The Phoenix Force and its avatars were all at the least extremely high end heralds/trans beings anyway.
I wouldn't put any of them in the Herald tier...especially looking at how they "continuously" took out high powered teams. What showings are you using to suggest they are Heralds?