We used to have a name for threads like these. It would have been closed very quickly.
More than anything, though, it saddens me that the respect forum has failed so utterly. If someone really cares enough about the relationship between characters' feats, they have all the tools available to do adequate research and come to a conclusion removed from interpersonal politics.
Instead, we have threads like this one that are essentially "here's a feat, come at me losers." If anyone thinks that it is presented otherwise, you really need to bone up on common etiquette, or be far more aware of the state of the forum. This isn't an opportunity for debate, it's middle school showmanship.
Obviously very few feats provide such exact circumstances and numbers, so it's almost a tautologically unmatchable feat. We've seen planets moved or destroyed numerous times by various characters. We've also seen every character at this level struggle with inexplicably lower-end stuff. The same will be true of this new Superman. Where you place the feats isn't an objective science, in what is perhaps the most subjective and variable ongoing artform. Disqualifying any opinion or poster as lying, delusional, ignorant, etc. is to ignore the vast range of interpretation and feats that any powerful comic character has. It's a disservice to rational discourse.
Comics like that ruin Superman. Fans like abhi ruin him on KMC for many. It's not the first or only occurrence of this on the forums. But it's always a shame. I'm not trying to be some moral compass, I'm just here on KMC enough for other reasons to be aware of it and disgusted by it.
Originally posted by Digi
We used to have a name for threads like these. It would have been closed very quickly.More than anything, though, it saddens me that the respect forum has failed so utterly. If someone really cares enough about the relationship between characters' feats, they have all the tools available to do adequate research and come to a conclusion removed from interpersonal politics.
Instead, we have threads like this one that are essentially "here's a feat, come at me losers." If anyone thinks that it is presented otherwise, you really need to bone up on common etiquette, or be far more aware of the state of the forum. This isn't an opportunity for debate, it's middle school showmanship.
Obviously very few feats provide such exact circumstances and numbers, so it's almost a tautologically unmatchable feat. We've seen planets moved or destroyed numerous times by various characters. We've also seen every character at this level struggle with inexplicably lower-end stuff. The same will be true of this new Superman. Where you place the feats isn't an objective science, in what is perhaps the most subjective and variable ongoing artform. Disqualifying any opinion or poster as lying, delusional, ignorant, etc. is to ignore the vast range of interpretation and feats that any powerful comic character has. It's a disservice to rational discourse.
Comics like that ruin Superman. Fans like abhi ruin him on KMC for many. It's not the first or only occurrence of this on the forums. But it's always a shame. I'm not trying to be some moral compass, I'm just here on KMC enough for other reasons to be aware of it and disgusted by it.
Great post.
Originally posted by Digi
We used to have a name for threads like these. It would have been closed very quickly.More than anything, though, it saddens me that the respect forum has failed so utterly. If someone really cares enough about the relationship between characters' feats, they have all the tools available to do adequate research and come to a conclusion removed from interpersonal politics.
Instead, we have threads like this one that are essentially "here's a feat, come at me losers." If anyone thinks that it is presented otherwise, you really need to bone up on common etiquette, or be far more aware of the state of the forum. This isn't an opportunity for debate, it's middle school showmanship.
Obviously very few feats provide such exact circumstances and numbers, so it's almost a tautologically unmatchable feat. We've seen planets moved or destroyed numerous times by various characters. We've also seen every character at this level struggle with inexplicably lower-end stuff. The same will be true of this new Superman. Where you place the feats isn't an objective science, in what is perhaps the most subjective and variable ongoing artform. Disqualifying any opinion or poster as lying, delusional, ignorant, etc. is to ignore the vast range of interpretation and feats that any powerful comic character has. It's a disservice to rational discourse.
Comics like that ruin Superman. Fans like abhi ruin him on KMC for many. It's not the first or only occurrence of this on the forums. But it's always a shame. I'm not trying to be some moral compass, I'm just here on KMC enough for other reasons to be aware of it and disgusted by it.
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Personally, I view it as a very impressive strength feat, which it is.
But I temper it with the fact that we're more than likely going to see Superman struggle physically in the future with an opponent or task and it's not going to be quantified as anything close to planetary. And we're also see another absurd feat from Superman that will become the "norm" for a few weeks until he does something far less impressive. And so and so on.
I mean, we're likely going to see Captain Marvel and Superman throw down. Does that mean that Cap is going to be operating close to planetary level strength? Or Superman was vastly holding back? If that feat is going to be the "norm", does that mean every other feat that doesn't display that level of strength count as PIS or something now?
It's why hanging onto a single feat, high or low, especially right after it comes out, is just an exercise in futility. It doesn't make sense.
Originally posted by Digi👆
We used to have a name for threads like these. It would have been closed very quickly.More than anything, though, it saddens me that the respect forum has failed so utterly. If someone really cares enough about the relationship between characters' feats, they have all the tools available to do adequate research and come to a conclusion removed from interpersonal politics.
Instead, we have threads like this one that are essentially "here's a feat, come at me losers." If anyone thinks that it is presented otherwise, you really need to bone up on common etiquette, or be far more aware of the state of the forum. This isn't an opportunity for debate, it's middle school showmanship.
Obviously very few feats provide such exact circumstances and numbers, so it's almost a tautologically unmatchable feat. We've seen planets moved or destroyed numerous times by various characters. We've also seen every character at this level struggle with inexplicably lower-end stuff. The same will be true of this new Superman. Where you place the feats isn't an objective science, in what is perhaps the most subjective and variable ongoing artform. Disqualifying any opinion or poster as lying, delusional, ignorant, etc. is to ignore the vast range of interpretation and feats that any powerful comic character has. It's a disservice to rational discourse.
Comics like that ruin Superman. Fans like abhi ruin him on KMC for many. It's not the first or only occurrence of this on the forums. But it's always a shame. I'm not trying to be some moral compass, I'm just here on KMC enough for other reasons to be aware of it and disgusted by it.
Very well put.
Originally posted by carver9Dunno. Maj moved planets around the solar system, and adjusted earth's axis, but he never sat there for several days bench pressing a weight equal to earth's.
Galan, what are your thoughts on the Superman ft? Would you put it above Majestics capabilities?
Tbh, the single-feat-wanking in this thread is mind-boggling... Almost sickening.
Originally posted by Digi
We used to have a name for threads like these. It would have been closed very quickly.More than anything, though, it saddens me that the respect forum has failed so utterly. If someone really cares enough about the relationship between characters' feats, they have all the tools available to do adequate research and come to a conclusion removed from interpersonal politics.
Instead, we have threads like this one that are essentially "here's a feat, come at me losers." If anyone thinks that it is presented otherwise, you really need to bone up on common etiquette, or be far more aware of the state of the forum. This isn't an opportunity for debate, it's middle school showmanship.
Obviously very few feats provide such exact circumstances and numbers, so it's almost a tautologically unmatchable feat. We've seen planets moved or destroyed numerous times by various characters. We've also seen every character at this level struggle with inexplicably lower-end stuff. The same will be true of this new Superman. Where you place the feats isn't an objective science, in what is perhaps the most subjective and variable ongoing artform. Disqualifying any opinion or poster as lying, delusional, ignorant, etc. is to ignore the vast range of interpretation and feats that any powerful comic character has. It's a disservice to rational discourse.
Comics like that ruin Superman. Fans like abhi ruin him on KMC for many. It's not the first or only occurrence of this on the forums. But it's always a shame. I'm not trying to be some moral compass, I'm just here on KMC enough for other reasons to be aware of it and disgusted by it.
Your kind has no place here. You can take your Superman-esque boyscout attitude elsewhere sneer
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Originally posted by Galan007
👆Very well put.
Dunno. Maj moved planets around the solar system, and adjusted earth's axis, but he never sat there for several days bench pressing a weight equal to earth's.
Tbh, the single-feat-wanking in this thread is mind-boggling... Almost sickening.
And if you don't wank this feat, apparently you have it in for Superman. ermm
Originally posted by DigiOne-upmanship has been a bane of comics for decades. What I don't know is if it's been largely fan-driven or just the writers going hog-wild.
Obviously very few feats provide such exact circumstances and numbers, so it's almost a tautologically unmatchable feat. We've seen planets moved or destroyed numerous times by various characters. We've also seen every character at this level struggle with inexplicably lower-end stuff. The same will be true of this new Superman. Where you place the feats isn't an objective science, in what is perhaps the most subjective and variable ongoing artform. Disqualifying any opinion or poster as lying, delusional, ignorant, etc. is to ignore the vast range of interpretation and feats that any powerful comic character has. It's a disservice to rational discourse.
The insane thing about this isn't just what he did, its him being weakened while doing it and while weakened, he was doing it with ease "for 5 freaking days". So what does that tell us about a full powered Superman? That if he got pissed to the point that he just didn't care anymore, he could grab Earth or any other planet and toss that sh** into the sun, with ease of course. That's worse than a weakened Hulk holding planet Sakaar together. I thought that ft was absurd but this ft piss all over it. Enjoyed the ft but DC needs to decide if this is an average for Superman.
Most of the big name high heralds have absurd physic defying strength feats that are near impossible to quantify that would in my estimations suggest they could replicate something like this... but outside of meeting a super scientist that happens to have a machine around that can replicate the exact weight of the earth for the sole purpose of measuring how much weight a character can lift, there isn't a lot of opportunities to bench press something that weighs the same as the earth does... or a lot of reasons to do it in the first place.
Did he do it for five days straight? Or has it been his exercise session for five days?
Originally posted by Cogito😂
Don't worry, some Thor writers are working hard on the fine art of one-downsmanship.
Thor Writer: Superman did what at DC? He benched what?! For HOW LONG?!!!
Well we just can't let this slide.
Marvel Editor: What are you going to do about it?
Thor Writer: I'm gonna have a little girl throw a pebble and knock Thor out, that should balance everything!
Originally posted by CogitoIn Marvel's early years, that was one of their hallmarks, imo: more "realistic," less over-the-top tonnage being tossed about.
Don't worry, some Thor writers are working hard on the fine art of one-downsmanship.
But, tbh, what also makes this benching feat so impressive is not just the physical stats, but the artwork as well. Great style, set-up, scientific consideration and text. Overall, that first pic is just excellent.
Superman just pulled a feat that is the highlight of his career ever since the Pre-Crisis days.
Meanwhile, this happens at Marvel:
http://s3d2.turboimagehost.com/sp/6aec5034a86e6fffac4460b33d0c7465/Avengers_Assemble-Zone-017.jpg
http://s3d2.turboimagehost.com/sp/4c269aa9ad787d94917a9b33b0251645/Avengers_Assemble-Zone-018.jpg
http://s3d2.turboimagehost.com/sp/4eefe6a613b226585d33e872da3656db/Avengers_Assemble-Zone-019.jpg
Who is crying where, now?
