Superman has achieved his rightful place as the grand-daddy of all heralds
him being muddled as just another top herald did him injustice as the false equivocation made ppl think superman was in the same class as other heralds when in fact he leads that class
I do hope that the writers can deal with the issue of consistency...as with superman's latest feat, he should not struggle against significantly weaker enemies
LOL...we're right back to Pre-Crisis stupidity. If Superman can casually bench that much for five days then anything on Earth would be lighter than a feather to him. He should be able to pick up a mountain and toss it as if it wieghted nothing at all. A skyscraper should be less than a toothpick in terms of weight.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman just pulled a feat that is the highlight of his career ever since the Pre-Crisis days.Meanwhile, this happens at Marvel:
http://s3d2.turboimagehost.com/sp/6aec5034a86e6fffac4460b33d0c7465/Avengers_Assemble-Zone-017.jpg
http://s3d2.turboimagehost.com/sp/4c269aa9ad787d94917a9b33b0251645/Avengers_Assemble-Zone-018.jpg
http://s3d2.turboimagehost.com/sp/4eefe6a613b226585d33e872da3656db/Avengers_Assemble-Zone-019.jpgWho is crying where, now?
Your images didn't work but I think this is the scans of the Avengers struggling to stop a small rock.
Originally posted by Dampyretrue..its up to the writers to maintain consistency, which I hope they do
LOL...we're right back to Pre-Crisis stupidity. If Superman can casually bench that much for five days then anything on Earth would be lighter than a feather to him. He should be able to pick up a mountain and toss it as if it wieghted nothing at all. A skyscraper should be less than a toothpick in terms of weight.
or at least create some plot basis for why he isn't always as strong
but yeah, I see your point. by giving superman this feat, it will be very hard to bring him down to the levels of any other villain/hero in future plot lines
Originally posted by Philosophía
Welcome to comics.I recommend you start with issue 1 of any superhero of your liking.
How do you bridge the gap then? Of him struggling with or not being able to handle smaller objects and yet do this? We don't throw out his struggles for his highs.. So then, how do we fit this feat in with the others? One feat means next to nothing... He did this strength feat.. and yet got WTFpwned by a bad guy with ease. That's the point... one feat means nothing... if he has feats consistent with this AND shows said strength during combat and waxes the floor with everybody with his strength.. sure we can start to call it the norm. Until then, this is just like the lows... it's a feat that is averaged in will all the others. What good does it do superman to have a crazy strength feat like this.. only to struggle moving earth and require help in a comic 4 months from now? Nothing.
Originally posted by DampyreA skyscrapper or a mountain should have been a lightfeather ever since he moved the moon, or Earth, and contributed to about half for each of those feats, in the pre-DCnU Universe.
LOL...we're right back to Pre-Crisis stupidity. If Superman can casually bench that much for five days then anything on Earth would be lighter than a feather to him. He should be able to pick up a mountain and toss it as if it wieghted nothing at all. A skyscraper should be less than a toothpick in terms of weight.
There is literally no difference between now and then - in both cases it should be effortless...
Wait, I have to stop.
Is that a tear I see?
Originally posted by Starscream M
Superman has achieved his rightful place as the grand-daddy of all heraldshim being muddled as just another top herald did him injustice as the false equivocation made ppl think superman was in the same class as other heralds when in fact he leads that class
I do hope that the writers can deal with the issue of consistency...as with superman's latest feat, he should not struggle against significantly weaker enemies
He was just one shot with ease in a prior superman comic. Which is my exact point... this feat is mixed in with all his lows and means very little. If he has feats like this and consistently beats most everybody using strength like this.. sure we can talk then.. Until then, he just got one shot KO'd with ease in a prior issue.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosisuperman has mental blocks that prevent him from always utilizing the full extent of his powers
How do you bridge the gap then? Of him struggling with or not being able to handle smaller objects and yet do this? We don't throw out his struggles for his highs.. So then, how do we fit this feat in with the others? One feat means next to nothing... He did this strength feat.. and yet got WTFpwned by a bad guy with ease. That's the point... one feat means nothing... if he has feats consistent with this AND shows said strength during combat and waxes the floor with everybody with his strength.. sure we can start to call it the norm. Until then, this is just like the lows... it's a feat that is averaged in will all the others. What good does it do superman to have a crazy strength feat like this.. only to struggle moving earth and require help in a comic 4 months from now? Nothing.
he's so used to holding back, that in most circumstances, he's literally using less than 10% of what he truly is capable of fully unleashed
thats my explanation
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosiyou're mixing apples and oranges
He was just one shot with ease in a prior superman comic. Which is my exact point... this feat is mixed in with all his lows and means very little. If he has feats like this and consistently beats most everybody using strength like this.. sure we can talk then.. Until then, he just got one shot KO'd with ease in a prior issue.
getting oneshot is a durability issue...we're talking about a strength issue
Originally posted by PhilosophíaTrolling a mod...not too bright.
It would be a good thing to keep your opinions to yourself and not pass them on as facts.Because then I wouldn't have to call you on them for being utterly moronic and full of butthurt.
Originally posted by DigiAgreed. And this would have been closed much earlier had I not been so busy with work.
We used to have a name for threads like these. It would have been closed very quickly.More than anything, though, it saddens me that the respect forum has failed so utterly. If someone really cares enough about the relationship between characters' feats, they have all the tools available to do adequate research and come to a conclusion removed from interpersonal politics.
Instead, we have threads like this one that are essentially "here's a feat, come at me losers." If anyone thinks that it is presented otherwise, you really need to bone up on common etiquette, or be far more aware of the state of the forum. This isn't an opportunity for debate, it's middle school showmanship.
Obviously very few feats provide such exact circumstances and numbers, so it's almost a tautologically unmatchable feat. We've seen planets moved or destroyed numerous times by various characters. We've also seen every character at this level struggle with inexplicably lower-end stuff. The same will be true of this new Superman. Where you place the feats isn't an objective science, in what is perhaps the most subjective and variable ongoing artform. Disqualifying any opinion or poster as lying, delusional, ignorant, etc. is to ignore the vast range of interpretation and feats that any powerful comic character has. It's a disservice to rational discourse.
Comics like that ruin Superman. Fans like abhi ruin him on KMC for many. It's not the first or only occurrence of this on the forums. But it's always a shame. I'm not trying to be some moral compass, I'm just here on KMC enough for other reasons to be aware of it and disgusted by it.
Abh, you'd be very wise to not call attention to yourself anytime soon. 😉
