Hajj..... in Mecca

Started by Patient_Leech13 pages
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Also if you are being more intelligent than me on the subject, then surely you can do so without throwing out insults.

I insulted nothing other than the logic you presented.

Nice try playing victim.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Ive heard him say is Islam is barbaric...

Islam *is* barbaric.

"Only god can create life!" - Joshua Milton Blayhia - An evangelical christian who used to be a heroin addicted warlord of Liberia

Ignoring the fact that modern science can in fact create life through their understanding of science and how things form...

****ing hell guys. There is no god!

Originally posted by Blakemore
"Only god can create life!" - Joshua Milton Blayhia - An evangelical christian who used to be a heroin addicted warlord of Liberia

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I insulted nothing other than the logic you presented.

Nice try playing victim.

I'm not playing victim, I just noted you can't have this debate without throwing insults (i.e. being emotional) which shows my argument triggered you, so you thought you better add in the insults to prop up your own rebuttal.

Like I said, IF your argument was superior, it'd stand out for itself. You certainly wouldn't need to get emotional on your first rebuttal LMAO

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Islam *is* barbaric.

You see IF you and the likes of Sam Harris argued that Evolution is Fact and therefore Religion can only hold back human progression, then you'd have a much better standing. However, you decide to throw out tropes like these instead, making you just seem bigoted.

Y'all should stick to your lane.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
😂

So you're drawing an analogy on what *may* happen in the future?

And supposing it *does* happen, that's still an evolution of technology that didn't happen over night.

One step lead to another step and another step, etc..

It's not a spontaneous creation. 😂

No because that would be an advancement through ever increasing knowledge leading to superior design.

It wouldn't start happening through random chance.

Important discoveries can be made through random chance, but to act on them and progress with that discovery takes intelligence.

Originally posted by Blakemore

Ignoring the fact that modern science can in fact create life through their understanding of science and how things form...

Modern Science can CREATE Life? That's news to me.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I'm not playing victim, I just noted you can't have this debate without throwing insults (i.e. being emotional) which shows my argument triggered you, so you thought you better add in the insults to prop up your own rebuttal.

Like I said, IF your argument was superior, it'd stand out for itself. You certainly wouldn't need to get emotional on your first rebuttal LMAO

Lol, there you go with the unsupported assertion again.

Please point out the ad hominem.

Where did I insult you personally instead of the ideas presented?

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Lol, there you go with the unsupported assertion again.

Please point out the ad hominem.

Where did I insult you personally instead of the ideas presented?

Did I claim you insulted me personally ?

Nope. Try to understand my point before responding.

Let me try again:

LET YOUR ARGUMENT OWN MINE

I mean If YOU KNOW you're right, then why be insecure about it, feeling the need on Your Very First Rebuttal to throw in a paragraph insulting "the argument".

And I think we're done here.

You're not making any sense. Just distractions, deflections, strawmen, false analogies, etc..

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
And I think we're done here.

You're not making any sense. Just distractions, deflections, strawmen, false analogies, etc..

You're really not used to anyone pushing back on your anti-GOD/Religion arguments are you ?

Fear not little ones, I am here to restore civility and concord to this debate.

Let us re-dress the question. Does one have to actually research a question to have a valid opinion on it?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Modern Science can CREATE Life? That's news to me.
Yes, you can create life. 😂

By that I mean bacteria, not conscience which you probably call life.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/15/science/synthetic-genome-bacteria.html

Originally posted by Blakemore
Yes, you can create life. 😂

By that I mean bacteria, not conscience which you probably call life.

Interesting. I found the article (Whirlys was asking for subscription) :

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-create-e-coli-bacteria-completely-synthetic-genome-180972214/

Just look at the effort, expertise, complications and sophistication that went into that.

And thats for a very simple organism.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Interesting. I found the article (Whirlys was asking for subscription) :

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-create-e-coli-bacteria-completely-synthetic-genome-180972214/

Just look at the effort, expertise, complications and sophistication that went into that.

And thats for a very simple organism.

Yes. Your stretch of the imagination is the idea that another being way more intelligent than those people created all life from the beginning.

The leap of faith, from my perspective, goes as follows.

If another being has to be that intelligent to create life, then what created that being, and then that being, etc. ?

You can call it god all you want, but you're not answering any questions, just raising more.

I think DT here has earned his spot replacing good 'ol Methneo. dur

Tell me, DT. How do you feel about Kent Hovind? 😂 dur

popcorn

Originally posted by Blakemore
Yes. Your stretch of the imagination is the idea that another being way more intelligent than those people created all life from the beginning.

The leap of faith, from my perspective, goes as follows.

If another being has to be that intelligent to create life, then what created that being, and then that being, etc. ?

You can call it god all you want, but you're not answering any questions, just raising more.

Well its the first time you asked that question.

That Being is the source of the Universe. Exists outside time and space, in fact created Time and Space, so was never in need of being created.

So it in fact does explain a lot.