Wolverine vs T-1000

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You're wrong. All evidence is on my POV's side. Arnold never played the T1000 it was capable of small ranges of emotion according to Cameron. Note the look on its face when no humans were around when it came face to face with that chrome mannequin in the mall and the look of shock and confusion expressed on it's face.... The look of horror on it's face when it lost its arm when frozen.... the eway it could empathise and relate with humans..... the way it could talk, rather than a T800 style emotionless robot voice...... theres no denying it for the non-idiot.The mirth and sadistic sardonicism with that finger waving "tut tut tut" that was going on near the end...the way it screamed in horror in the vat.
Only someone who had never seen T2 and just heard there was a robot fighting a robot in it would assume such tripe enough to sate that on a public forum. Please go watch the entirety of the movie.

You're wrong again. They were very effective against it. They would disrupt it.
The shotgun was down to range. T800 gave T1000 a shotgun in the face at closer range at the elevator and split it's head open so bad that it had to disengage and regen allowing some respite for the Connors and the T800.

Yet again, you are wrong. A its not totally liquid, due tot he fact that it doesnt just splash tot he floor...... B did you ever see The Abyss...? Witb the bit where the water tentacle got the door closed on it's neck? Yep. Wolverine can slash away just fine with maximum effect.

Wrong once more, completing a wonderful yet tragic hattrick of wrongiosity...
Because Ive seen Terminator 2, and Ive also Ive seen Wolverine Origins....and origins clearly shows Wolverine fighting in many wars with guns. He is a capable gun user. Butter knives? lol More frustrated downplay from you.... Don't cry though. Its only a debate.

A few slight changes on his face (which Arnold did too btw) don't mean much. And you failed to address my point about the dramatic effect. Way to focus on the wrong part of the argument.

I said they slowed it down and that's all they did. The T-1000 never sustained any permanent damage in the movie from firearms, explosions, bludgeoning or slashing and stabbing.

Fine. Semi-liquid or whatever you want to call it. The point is once it goes into that semi-liquid condition (like when Arnie tried to punch it) Wolverine will be screwed.

Oh, god. Another failure to read properly. I said Wolverine doesn't carry around guns and grenades , not that he can't use them.

Originally posted by Psychotron

Oh, god. Another failure to read properly. I said Wolverine doesn't carry around guns and grenades , not that he can't use them.

Who says Wolvie can't use guns or grenades?

Originally posted by Kazenji
Who says Wolvie can't use guns or grenades?

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Nobody. Sodoku of Girth just thought I did.

Originally posted by Psychotron

Nobody. Sodoku of Girth just thought I did.

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Originally posted by Psychotron

Why are you even assuming Wolverine has a gun or grenades? All he has is a set of butter knives.

Ohhhhh dear. Your pants're well and truly on fire.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
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Ohhhhh dear. Your pants're well and truly on fire.

What's the problem? Wolverine doesn't carry firearms or grenades as part of his standard equipment.

Originally posted by Psychotron
A few slight changes on his face (which Arnold did too btw) don't mean much. And you failed to address my point about the dramatic effect. Way to focus on the wrong part of the argument.

I said they slowed it down and that's all they did. The T-1000 never sustained any permanent damage in the movie from firearms, explosions, bludgeoning or slashing and stabbing.

Fine. Semi-liquid or whatever you want to call it. The point is once it goes into that semi-liquid condition (like when Arnie tried to punch it) Wolverine will be screwed.

Oh, god. Another failure to read properly. I said Wolverine doesn't carry around guns and grenades , not that he can't use them.

Nope I didn't. Terminator 1's T800 was absolutely poe faced all the way through and it worked fine.
Im right. The T1000 has predevelopment limited emotion.
http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Terminator_emotions
Arnold's T2 facial movements were was explained fully in the special edition as being something totally different.
Time to accept and face your wrongness. The T1000 is simply incapable of maintaining even facial movement when it has shut down to do serious regens.

Wrong again. In addition to totally preventing it from completing it's mission by forcing it to take mandatory shutdown regens, It was shot when frozen and that messed it up real good with permanent glitch damage. Also a shot with a grenade messed it up so bad that it couldn't even stop itself falling backwards to it's certain destruction...also its never fought Wolverine before: That will definitely keep rendering him into slices (4 with each of Wolverine's hands per strike) and with force a shutdown regen resulting in forum win.

Arnie had already hit it.
When its wolverines claws doing the cutting, T-1000 will already be in pieces before doing the 'trap the arm' morph trick.

He did in origins. Another failure of yours to follow even you own falsehood laden 'argument'..
You tried gimping. And were caught.

Originally posted by Psychotron
What's the problem? Wolverine doesn't carry firearms or grenades as part of his standard equipment.

T1000 wasn't born with a gun up it's ass (unlike TX) either.
It takes and uses what it finds.

And still, projectile weapons aside: Wolverine would still win by making sliced ham out of T1000.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope I didn't. Terminator 1's T800 was absolutely poe faced all the way through and it worked fine.
Im right. The T1000 has predevelopment limited emotion.
http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Terminator_emotions
Arnold's T2 facial movements were was explained fully in the special edition as being something totally different.
Time to accept and face your wrongness. The T1000 is simply incapable of maintaining even facial movement when it has shut down to do serious regens.

Wrong again. In addition to totally preventing it from completing it's mission by forcing it to take mandatory shutdown regens, It was shot when frozen and that messed it up real good with permanent glitch damage. Also a shot with a grenade messed it up so bad that it couldn't even stop itself falling backwards to it's certain destruction...also its never fought Wolverine before: That will definitely keep rendering him into slices (4 with each of Wolverine's hands per strike) and with force a shutdown regen resulting in forum win.

Arnie had already hit it.
When its wolverines claws doing the cutting, T-1000 will already be in pieces before doing the 'trap the arm' morph trick.

He did in origins. Another failure of yours to follow even you own falsehood laden 'argument'..
You tried gimping. And were caught.

Nope. I was talking about T1 Arnie. Slight expressions don't meant shit.

More lies. The T-1000 was always moving when it was shot thus it wasn't forced into shutdown. The only scene where you could say that is was that one scene in the mall and it was done for dramatic effect. So if you're hope is that Wolvie can score a technical win you're shit out of luck.

The T-1000 allowed Arnie to do so it could grab him. The same thing would happen to Wolverine when tries to stab the T-1000 in the gut.

Are you stupid or something? I said Logan doesn't typically carry guns not that he can't use them. LEARN. TO. READ.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
As said repeatedly: He does. Whenever at war, according to Origins and comics etc etc etc

T1000 wasn't born with a gun up it's ass (unlike TX) either.
It takes and uses what it finds.

And still, projectile weapons aside: Wolverine would still win by making sliced ham out of T1000.

Well too bad Wolverine isn't at war right now. Because his standard equipment is a set of butter knives which are useless against a T-1000.

Wanna post clips of that?
Still what you say has no bearing...sorry.
T1000 shuts down, in hardcore reforming. Its been proved.

Well a technicals not needed. If youre gonna have to try to gimp valid KO's then you have lost the debate.

LOL Thats entirely your assumption.
And the second part is doubley so.
It got caught with a peach but countered it. Are you now saying the T1000 sees the f***ing future? Dont you think being able to anticipate the T800's movements/future better would have resulted in the deaths of the connor's if hit had ubiquitous control over the T800????? LOLOLOLOLOLOL 😂

Nope. but I know you probably are, judging by your perceptions of these movies and you subsequent debate posture... Very much so.
Learn. Your. Subject . Matter. Before. Debating. So. Stroppily.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Well too bad Wolverine isn't at war right now. Because his standard equipment is a set of butter knives which are useless against a T-1000.

"The machines rose from the ashes of the nuclear fire.
Their war to exterminate mankind had raged for decades,
but the final battle would not be fought in the future, it would be fought in the present."

Ergo: Wolverine is at war.
Hmmmm shall we give him a phased plasma rifle with the 40 watt range?

Well if T1000 is able to magically make guns appear from nowhere, so can wolverine.

Butter knives would be useless. Yes.

But as that doesnt apply here, of course. (As only an idiot would call what Logan has "Butterknives".) But you bitterly/butthurtedly/childishly calling them that in pure T1000 fanboy rage is particularly ironic due to the fact that Wolverine's Admantium claws rip through foot thick steel like butter.

T1000 has no chance against them.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Wanna post clips of that?
Still what you say has no bearing...sorry.
T1000 shuts down, in hardcore reforming. Its been proved.

Well a technicals not needed. If youre gonna have to try to gimp valid KO's then you have lost the debate.

LOL Thats entirely your assumption.
And the second part is doubley so.
It got caught with a peach but countered it. Are you now saying the T1000 sees the f***ing future? LOLOLOLOLOLOL 😂

Nope. but I know you probably are, judging by your perceptions of these movies and you subsequent debate posture... Very much so.
Learn. Your. Subject . Matter. Before. Debating. So. Stroppily.

Watch the Technoir shoot out.
Yes it does.
Literally every shootout he was in he was fine except that mall scene. That's an outlier. Sorry to crush your dreams.

Nope. Wolverine can't get that technical KO. So it's a moot point.

It's not like Arnold was fast. It could probably see it coming. Anyway I can't see why it wouldn't react the same way to Logan.

Says the guy who thinks Logan is immortal (lulz) and first argued Logan would win with liquid nitrogen that he doesn't have, then argued he'd win with extreme heat he doesn't have, then argued he'd win with freaking car battery acid and is now arguing Logan would win via technical KO even though that has happened to the T-1000 only once and THREE times to Wolverine. Freaking hilarious.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well if T1000 is able to magically make guns appear from nowhere, so can wolverine.

Butter knives would be useless. Yes.

But as that doesnt apply here, of course. (As only an idiot would call what Logan has "Butterknives".) But you bitterly/butthurtedly/childishly calling them that in pure T1000 fanboy rage is particularly ironic due to the fact that Wolverine's Admantium claws rip through foot thick steel like butter.

T1000 has no chance against them.

The T-1000 doesn't need guns but apparently Logan does. You know why? Because the T-1000 isn't made of steel. It's made of liquid metal. You can't damage that shit with slashing weapons.

Nope its more the other way round. Thats why you have been all the time arguing that Wolverine gets no guns and arguing for the T1000 to have guns. 'Cause at close range against Logan it is completely and royally f***ed against Wolverine's claws, instinct, will, speed and regen..

But there is a another layer of fail built into that tactic for you though: T1000 couldn't shoot for shit and would get shot all the time. So the thing you begged for, guns for T1000 and none for Logan would still do no good for you.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Watch the Technoir shoot out.
Yes it does.
Literally every shootout he was in he was fine except that mall scene. That's an outlier. Sorry to crush your dreams.

Nope. Wolverine can't get that technical KO. So it's a moot point.

It's not like Arnold was fast. It could probably see it coming. Anyway I can't see why it wouldn't react the same way to Logan.

Says the guy who thinks Logan is immortal (lulz) and first argued Logan would win with liquid nitrogen that he doesn't have, then argued he'd win with extreme heat he doesn't have, then argued he'd win with freaking car battery acid and is now arguing Logan would win via technical KO even though that has happened to the T-1000 only once and THREE times to Wolverine. Freaking hilarious.

Dude in the Technoir scene Arnie got the crap shot out of him.

He ended up in the same situation as the T1000 in the Mall scene. Down and confused. No different really from Logan's petty X2 bullet in the head scene.

Now both characters have bad low end feats.

Originally posted by Psychotron
The T-1000 doesn't need guns but apparently Logan does. You know why? Because the T-1000 isn't made of steel. It's made of liquid metal. You can't damage that shit with slashing weapons.

Wrong! Logan's claws are a force of nature. They cut through foot thick solid metal like a knife through butter.
And Logan has proved that he is a more agile and creative combatant than the T1000.

Look at the final fight scene against Magneto in X1. He flew up and carved his way around the Statue of Liberty's crown to get to him.
He rushed a team of mutants in X3 and stormed their compound.

You guys can argue that he had a hard time against Mystique and Lady Deathstrike but they were professionals and they fell eventually.

Cept the T1000 would have a good chance against those bitches. Not skillwise but he may get them if they didn't run away.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope its more the other way round. Thats why you have been all the time arguing that Wolverine gets no guns and arguing for the T1000 to have guns. 'Cause at close range against Logan it is completely and royally f***ed against Wolverine's claws, instinct, will, speed and regen..

But there is a another layer of fail built into that tactic for you though: T1000 couldn't shoot for shit and would get shot all the time. So the thing you begged for, guns for T1000 and none for Logan would still do no good for you.

Yup. Logan carves up the T1000 with ease. The Terminators took damage religiously, they tank.....it's what they do.

Cept tanking Logan's claws means compromising your physical form at a relentless rate. He slashes fast. And limbs fly.

The T1000 won't heal over slash wounds, the wounds will cause the parts to fly apart. Like the guns he exploded apart.

This has gone for to long......

-Terminators are terrible aims.
-They act with terrible judgment.
-When the T1000's frame is compromised it needs to reform when chunks of it are removed. Let alone spread apart.
-The T1000 has a feat of reforming and continuing fighting when Arnie punched it in the skull. A pathetic attempt at compromising the the frame. Logan defies all that!
-Even if the T1000 had a gun he can't aim for squat.
-The T1000 gets weaker as his body is compromised DEAL WITH IT! Watch the Special Edition. He shows limitations in its ability to reform.
-Logan can run fast. And can keep up the pain whilst healing any wound the T1000 dishes out.

Originally posted by Psychotron
The T-1000 doesn't need guns but apparently Logan does. You know why? Because the T-1000 isn't made of steel. It's made of liquid metal. You can't damage that shit with slashing weapons.

LOL if Wolverine can cut through foot thick solid steel, (softer) liquid metal is NO problem hence the knife through butter comparisons..!

T-800 does not have emotion.
T1000 actually did have predevelopmental limited emotions.
This is common knowledge. And I proved it with the link I put up.

Originally posted by Psychotron
[B]Watch the Technoir shoot out.
Yes it does.
Literally every shootout he was in he was fine except that mall scene. That's an outlier. Sorry to crush your dreams.

No dreams required.
You couldn't crush a grape.
It was not fine. Pay attention like everyone else did to:
"The back cooridor to the Mall"
"The pre-elevator scene."
"The end of the truck chase."
"The foundry being obliterated",
"The foundry when it lost its shit and its camouflage systems were screwed"
and "the foundry when it was messed up so bad it couldn't even stand straight and fell into molten steel.."

"Fine", my arse.

Nope. Wolverine can't get that technical KO. So it's a moot point.

In the words of Arnold at the ammunation scene: "Wrong."
T-1000 tweaks out for regen like all those other times after this time being cut to ribbons: Wolverine wins.

It's not like Arnold was fast. It could probably see it coming. Anyway I can't see why it wouldn't react the same way to Logan.

Says the guy who thinks Logan is immortal (lulz) and first argued Logan would win with liquid nitrogen that he doesn't have, then argued he'd win with extreme heat he doesn't have, then argued he'd win with freaking car battery acid and is now arguing Logan would win via technical KO even though that has happened to the T-1000 only once and THREE times to Wolverine. Freaking hilarious.

None. Because they are mortal.
Whereas Wolverine is more immortal than the immortals from Highlander... (attempting to cut his head off with never ever work.)
...And they are known as a race of 'Immortals'..!!!!!)
How much more f**king immortal does one have to be...? 😂

That you lol at this, shows your total lack of understanding and/or willful trollingness.

As for the KO thing, T1000 had more than three, as listed above, and Wolverine had 2. And Wolverine lived to complete all his missions over almost 200 years (so far)... T1000 didnt even live long enough to complete 1 solitary mission.

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(Notice how Wolverines can be in the cold and not fritz out, also..)

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wrong: Wolverine did that against the dude that kept growing his arms back in X-3.

LoL. Beat me too it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wrong: Wolverine did that against the dude that kept growing his arms back in X-3.

Cept the T1000 doesn't have any balls. 😄

Seriously ligaments fly. The T1000 keeps reforming. Logan cuts somes mores.
The T1000 gets dumber. It was in the freakin movie!