Wolverine vs T-1000

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
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Well if thats how "fast" it can regenerate in your book, then I'd hate to see him taking it's time.. Are you certain that Reforming then climbing out of the wreck was the exact order that it occurred in? Watch this clip: Cause the time from explosion to total regen was 2:42 to 3:30....just 'cause some fire (you claim could hurt it) burned up around it...

Thats 47-48 seconds. Giving and taking a second for the between secondsage..

Wolverine has faster regen, according to X3. So your statement is very unlikely to be bankable as true.

Not overpowered. Out manuvered. And its crowning moment of destruction against the T800 was acheived using that metal spear, and trapping the T800's arm in some machinery.. Not very H2H.

Im not even addressing your failure to recognise skill when you see it. Oh and he beat all of those you mentioned.

Nope sorry, but youre simply wrong: The truck was clearly visible, in no way did the whole thing shred. It just on fire. Again watch the clip...the movie clearly proves me right. It couldnt reform til well clear of the flames. So no.

Why can Wolverine not drive now? lol Are you gimping?
If Wolverine cant use a car, T1000 gets no guns.
And considering you attribute H2H victory to T1000 over T800 when it cheated using spears and machinery to clich a very temporary win, there is only a certain amount of seriousness in which we can take such assertions and assessments from you.

You might need to calm down, you sound like your anger at your wrongness and failure to wish victory into reality for T1000 out of pure fanboy love is getting to you.
I know you have a lot invested in this and it hurts, but temporary KO's are what we are debating for here as its really in your interest too, as Wolverine is indestructable and not even death kills him. Best you can hope for is a KO. It cant tie Wolverine up with no arms. Wolverine would cut through them like butter. Likewise, Wolverine could freeze T-1000 and bury it underground, like was done in Sarah Connor chronicles, or melted down or melted with Molecular or Hydrochloric acid... but thats all irrelevant, as simply peppering T1000 with gunfire and KOing it will suffice for this debate and scenario.
Yes Gimping: "Taking away basic abilities attributes from a side in order to secure an unfair win." IE Logan can't drive/cant use guns etc lol
Nope I said nothing of shitting it out. Thats you distorting/misrepresenting my argument AGAIN.
I just said its avaliable in most bars/pubs and multitudes of other sources and sites that we have seen Wolverine visit. And one things pretty much for sure: Wolverine can get to it sooner than T1000 can kill him.
Cause hes ummm you know...indestructable/virtually immortal.

Considering that Wolverine was knocked for hours after Sabretooth hit him I'd say 48 seconds isn't bad. In fact, the T-1000 was never regenerating for more than a few seconds in the films.

Slower regen according to X1 and X2 though.

You're just flat out lying now. The T-1000 directly overpowered Arnie when he shoved him through that wall in the mall. And that rod? The T-800 brought it because he got his ass beat in their previous fight. The same fight in which he brought guns and still got beaten down. The T-1000 is >>>> the T-800.

Mysique was clearly more skilled than him, only his hf saved him there. Lady Deathstrike was better than him in every way the environment and luck saved Wolverine there. And Juggernaut? He humiliated him. Where's the skill? Come on, go to youtube and find me a skill feat for Movie Wolverine.

If it had a problem with fire it wouldn't have walked slowly across it. Logic ftw.

Wolverine can drive but it's retarded to assume he'll disengage and go look for a car. Assuming there even is a car wherever the hell they're fighting. And if Wolverine does use a car then why can't the T-1000? It can drive too. How did the T-1000 cheat? By using the environment? By using the rod Arnold brought? The T-800 could barely even walk at that point. The T-1000 is simply a superior terminator. Deal with it.

So now Wolverine is immortal? lol ok. Here's what I'd like you to do. First, prove Wolverine can cut sentient liquid. Second, prove "not even death can kill him" (lol). And third I'd like you to tell me where I said Wolverine can't drive or use guns? Because I clearly said he wouldn't not that he couldn't. Reading comprehension is your friend. Just thinking about your ridiculous liquid nitrogen plan makes me laugh. It would be a 1000000 times easier for the T-1000 to get a gun or run over Wolverine with truck than it would be for Wolvie to find liquid nitrogen.

Great stuff... 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Great stuff... 🙂

Concession accepted.

😛

Yes. Yours is.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Considering that Wolverine was knocked for hours after Sabretooth hit him I'd say 48 seconds isn't bad. In fact, the T-1000 was never regenerating for more than a few seconds in the films.

Its called drama/PIS.
Infact on screen evidence calls bullshit on your 'few seconds' claim.

Slower regen according to X1 and X2 though.

You're just flat out lying now. The T-1000 directly overpowered Arnie when he shoved him through that wall in the mall. And that rod? The T-800 brought it because he got his ass beat in their previous fight. The same fight in which he brought guns and still got beaten down. The T-1000 is >>>> the T-800.

Mysique was clearly more skilled than him, only his hf saved him there. Lady Deathstrike was better than him in every way the environment and luck saved Wolverine there. And Juggernaut? He humiliated him. Where's the skill? Come on, go to youtube and find me a skill feat for Movie Wolverine.

Well he still lived and cut her "claws" off..

If it had a problem with fire it wouldn't have walked slowly across it. Logic ftw.

Or taken 47-48 seconds to regenerate.
Yes Logic wins: Good job I was actually utilising it.

Wolverine can drive but it's retarded to assume he'll disengage and go look for a car. Assuming there even is a car wherever the hell they're fighting. And if Wolverine does use a car then why can't the T-1000? It can drive too. How did the T-1000 cheat? By using the environment? By using the rod Arnold brought? The T-800 could barely even walk at that point. The T-1000 is simply a superior terminator. Deal with it.

Luckily T1000 isnt fighting a terminator: Its fighting something superior: Wolverine. Yeah but every other time the T1000 jumps in a vehicle it is destroyed. Wolverine could just cut that car along with T1000 inside it in half. Deal with THAT. 🙂

So now Wolverine is immortal? lol ok. Here's what I'd like you to do. First, prove Wolverine can cut sentient liquid. Second, prove "not even death can kill him" (lol). And third I'd like you to tell me where I said Wolverine can't drive or use guns? Because I clearly said he wouldn't not that he couldn't. Reading comprehension is your friend. Just thinking about your ridiculous liquid nitrogen plan makes me laugh. It would be a 1000000 times easier for the T-1000 to get a gun or run over Wolverine with truck than it would be for Wolvie to find liquid nitrogen.

What do you mean "Now" hes imortal. Always was.
In that he has never been shown to stay down even when "killed", atomised by a virtual god, shot, stabbed, blown up etc unlike T1000: Screwed after two days.
And the Liquid Nitrogen has been shown to be readily availiable. And since you cannot show that T1000 didn't simply expire because it only has finite regens (when all evidence points to it petering out, glitching, losing its shit before death) slashing it to pieces will most likely suffice. And even without that presumption, that tactic would probably win anyway eventually.
BTW, you shall not speak to me of reading comprehension, as your arguments have all been disproved yet you endless reassert those same fanboy theories. And you have spouted all those words and meant nothing. 🙂

Wolverine grabs car battery , shreds its throws hydrochloric acid in T1000's face, destroying it. /End thread.

Wolverine realising T1000 is a liquid metal pretty quickly lures it to somewhere like a scrapping yard and traps it with an electromagnet.
/End thread.

Wolverine takes it on the highways, battles T1000 in a traffic jam, keeps blowing up gas tanks forcing T1000 to regen at 48 seconds a time ad infinitum. /end thread

Wolverine keeps shooting it with grenades til it's regen is worn out. /End thread

Wolverine lures it to a place of extreme cold and freezes it. Syberia maybe. /End thread

T1000 can do nothing to actually kill Wolverine. /End thread.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Its called drama/PIS.
Infact on screen evidence calls bullshit on your 'few seconds' claim.

Well given that highend feat obviously rules, It would seem that Wolverine can regen at whatever rate he likes.

Says the man just exposed to be lying.
And T800 shoved T1000 through walls too. Didnt stop T800 in the slightest.
Well since you want to get into what beat what: T800 won and T1000 ended melted, failing completely into it's mission after only 2 days.... Fact. Gonna need to bring more than that against teh unkillable/indestructable/longer living Wolverine

Well he still lived and cut her "claws" off..

Or taken 47-48 seconds to regenerate.
Yes Logic wins: Good job I was actually utilising it.

Luckily T1000 isnt fighting a terminator: Its fighting something superior: Wolverine. Yeah but every other time the T1000 jumps in a vehicle it is destroyed. Wolverine could just cut that car along with T1000 inside it in half. Deal with THAT. 🙂

What do you mean "Now" hes imortal. Always was.
In that he has never been shown to stay down even when "killed", atomised by a virtual god, shot, stabbed, blown up etc unlike T1000: Screwed after two days.
And the Liquid Nitrogen has been shown to be readily availiable. And since you cannot show that T1000 didn't simply expire because it only has finite regens (when all evidence points to it petering out, glitching, losing its shit before death) slashing it to pieces will most likely suffice. And even without that presumption, that tactic would probably win anyway eventually.
BTW, you shall not speak to me of reading comprehension, as your arguments have all been disproved yet you endless reassert those same fanboy theories. And you have spouted all those words and meant nothing. 🙂

Wolverine grabs car battery , shreds its throws hydrochloric acid in T1000's face, destroying it. /End thread.

Wolverine realising T1000 is a liquid metal pretty quickly lures it to somewhere like a scrapping yard and traps it with an electromagnet.
/End thread.

Wolverine takes it on the highways, battles T1000 in a traffic jam, keeps blowing up gas tanks forcing T1000 to regen at 48 seconds a time ad infinitum. /end thread

Wolverine keeps shooting it with grenades til it's regen is worn out. /End thread

Wolverine lures it to a place of extreme cold and freezes it. Syberia maybe. /End thread

T1000 can do nothing to actually kill Wolverine. /End thread.

Oh yeah, drama. Whatever lies you tell yourself are of no consequence. The fact is that Wolverine got wtfpwned by Sabretooth.
Give me and example of the T-1000 staying down for that long.

Two movies full of low-mid feats > one movie of high feats.

So in short you admit the T-1000 is at least as strong as the T-800? Good. The T-800 from T1 failed it's mission too. Doesn't make either of them weak because there were circumstances.

Like I said he was saved by his HF. She completely dominated their fight just like Deathstrike and Juggernaut did.

Not bad really. Logan would have been out far longer.

I'd like to see Logan try to cut a truck or something equally big.

You actually believe Wolverine is immortal? Jesu Christo. This explains everything. I don't know how to break this to you but Logan is not immortal. He can be killed just like Lady Deathstrike was.

I don't need to show you shit. James Cameron himself said the T-1000 was glitching at the end because of the liquid nitrogen. Which can't be found in every bar btw.

A car battery's acid? Come on, I would survive that. Get serious.

And the T-1000 just stands there? Bullshit.

Because there are infinite cars on the highways right?

And everything you've just said would work on Wolverine just as much as it would on the T-1000. It could just as easily exploit it's surroundings as Wolvie can.

Ok: The end of the truck chase. 48 secs. (Did you not view the clip form the movie Terminator 2 that I posted?

Since the two you cite are preceeding X3, I'd say Wolverine was improving, by logic. Also: He was pretty much immortal anyways.

Nope. The T800 and T850 were both stronger. Common sense aftre having viewed the feats.. T-850 even stopped multi tonne nuclear bunker doors with mechanical closing force closing inertia behind them...and it beat the TX which was superior to the prototype T1000.

Well a win is a win. 🙂 A loss is a loss: Just like T1000 lost after 1 movie. (As opposed to Wolverine survivng 4 movies so far +5 or 6 wars)

Says you. Wolverine has also susatined way worse and remained conscious.

Well he could do it way better than T1000, thats for sure.

Pity that his being killed has never happened. Deathstrike didnt have Wolverine's HF/regen.

It can be found in a lot of them. Lots of injuries being reprorted as a result. It can be found in tonnes of places too, as I mentioned earlier. Oh you arent goona defend your point, Mr "show me one example of this, show me one example of that"...? Hahahahahypocrisy again.. 😂

Oh really? Prove it.

If having to regen through being sliced in half repeatedly? yes.

There were enough at the opening of t2 and most rushhour jams.
It doesnt have to be infinite...just til t1000 is screwed, which should take ohhhhhh 2 days as opposed to Wolverine's couple of hundred years so far...

Not if Wolverine does it first. And Wolverine cannot be killed. 🙂
t1000 can. Anyways its first to the KO, and T1000 is a terrible shot, as proven. Wolverine winds by gunshot forced regen KO.
Common sense.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ok: The end of the truck chase. 48 secs. (Did you not view the clip form the movie Terminator 2 that I posted?

Since the two you cite are preceeding X3, I'd say Wolverine was improving, by logic. Also: He was pretty much immortal anyways.

Nope. The T800 and T850 were both stronger. Common sense aftre having viewed the feats.. T-850 even stopped multi tonne nuclear bunker doors with mechanical closing force closing inertia behind them...and it beat the TX which was superior to the prototype T1000.

Well a win is a win. 🙂 A loss is a loss: Just like T1000 lost after 1 movie. (As opposed to Wolverine survivng 4 movies so far +5 or 6 wars)

Says you. Wolverine has also susatined way worse and remained conscious.

Well he could do it way better than T1000, thats for sure.

Pity that his being killed has never happened. Deathstrike didnt have Wolverine's HF/regen.

It can be found in a lot of them. Lots of injuries being reprorted as a result. It can be found in tonnes of places too, as I mentioned earlier. Oh you arent goona defend your point, Mr "show me one example of this, show me one example of that"...? Hahahahahypocrisy again.. 😂

Oh really? Prove it.

If having to regen through being sliced in half repeatedly? yes.

There were enough at the opening of t2 and most rushhour jams.
It doesnt have to be infinite...just til t1000 is screwed, which should take ohhhhhh 2 days as opposed to Wolverine's couple of hundred years so far...

Not if Wolverine does it first. And Wolverine cannot be killed. 🙂
t1000 can. Anyways its first to the KO, and T1000 is a terrible shot, as proven. Wolverine winds by gunshot forced regen KO.
Common sense.

I'm talking about Wolverine getting KTFO by Sabretooth. Don't play dumb.

No he isn't and no he wasn't.

T-850 might be but the T-800 is not because it was overpowered on screen by the T-1000. The end. As for the T-X http://www.cracked.com/article_20099_5-awesome-movie-robots-with-inexcusable-design-flaws.html
Since I don't feel like explaining it again myself.

Ignoring circumstances, nice.

Yes he has. He's inconsistent unlike the T-1000.

Proof?

Lots of people haven't been killed on screen, doesn't mean they're immortal. And Lady Deathstrike had an equally good HF. She wouldn't have been able to survive the adamantium procedure otherwise (as explained in Origins).

Which point?

Prove what? James Cameron saying it was the liquid nitrogen? Or what? Be specific.

Wolverine can't cut him and he doesn't have infinite energy. Even comic book Wolverine would get tired.

Nope. You have no proof that the T-1000's battery lasts 1000s of times less than a older, inferior terminator. Stop reaching.

Why would Logan do it first? We've seen the T-1000 utilize the environment against the T-800 more than once. Give me proof that Wolverine is immortal. Do you honestly think he could survive the molten metal? If so what's the evidence. Or are you going for a no limits fallacy?

I know you are. T1000 cant swing trees like that. Its not as strong as Sabretooth. Its not me playing dumb.

Well so far lives forever, so yes he is. Certainly way more immortal than something that can only stand up to two days of abuse.

Well thats handy: I dont really feel like outlining th obvious to you again either. Black is clearly white and vice versa for you. We get it.

Not that I am, but hey works for you in every post...

The t1000 is very inconsistent. And you appraisal of it's wolverine killing capabilities is very inconsistant with two sagas of movies.

Of what? The 48 secs thing..? Already posted.

But those people havent been hit with stuff that would clearly kill anything else and anyoneelse. If you can watch the X movies and Origins, and come away with any other opinion, then theres no helping you. Not equally good: she died.

The battery acid one.

Anything. You failed to prove anything, whilst blindly asserting that Wolverine is not immortal....lives forever, cannot be killed has stood up to all methods of killing applied to him = Immortal (at least compared to one thing that couldn't even survive 1 movie)

You have no proof that it doesn't last 3 days, or even that it has one to begin with. Stop assuming and reaching.

Ok I'll give it to you again, Mr, hypocritical "I dont have to prove shit": Wolverine has survived 4 movies and 5 or 6 wars of people trying to kill him. Methods include and are not limited to: Burning, shooting, stabbing, hacking, blunt impact trauma, life endangering surgery that would have killed pretty much anyone else, atomising, and varieties of mutant attacks that are amplified versions of several of these. He even "died" and came back from that. He doesn't even age. Ergo: Immortal. Hes like Connor McLeod but with an admantium skeleton preventing decapitation.
Yeah he would survive molten metal most likely. All evidence points to it, especially as molten admantium was pumped into him and he simply healed..

watched T2 special ed earlier.. Sadako is right

Thank you..! 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Thank you..! 🙂

your welcome

Right about what?

Take your pick. 😉

But chiefly, I think Bruce was referring to my stating that T1000 had (even if for temperature reasons) lost it's shit (losing control of it's ability to maintain shape, its arms and legs randomly imitating anything it touched in the special edtion, an effect that we see go off of the scale when it falls into the hot stuff as it thrashes around changing into pretty much anything it ever touched) after two days of action, and Wolverine surviving 200 years of 4 movies, 5 or 6 wars and temperature variations that would make the T1000 cry effluence, in addition to all of the various other shootings, stabbings, being atomised by Phoenix and various other traumas, things that would destroy/kill pretty much anything else.
And also presumably about the 48 second regen T1000 took just because it was within 10ft of a petrol tank that exploded in the truck it was sitting on. (denied repeatedly by Psychotron)

Ah right then

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Take your pick. 😉

But chiefly, I think Bruce was referring to my stating that T1000 had (even if for temperature reasons) lost it's shit (losing control of it's ability to maintain shape, its arms and legs randomly imitating anything it touched in the special edtion, an effect that we see go off of the scale when it falls into the hot stuff as it thrashes around changing into pretty much anything it ever touched) after two days of action, and Wolverine surviving 200 years of 4 movies, 5 or 6 wars and temperature variations that would make the T1000 cry effluence, in addition to all of the various other shootings, stabbings, being atomised by Phoenix and various other traumas, things that would destroy/kill pretty much anything else.
And also presumably about the 48 second regen T1000 took just because it was within 10ft of a petrol tank that exploded in the truck it was sitting on. (denied repeatedly by Psychotron)

right on

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I know you are. T1000 cant swing trees like that. Its not as strong as Sabretooth. Its not me playing dumb.

Well so far lives forever, so yes he is. Certainly way more immortal than something that can only stand up to two days of abuse.

Well thats handy: I dont really feel like outlining th obvious to you again either. Black is clearly white and vice versa for you. We get it.

Not that I am, but hey works for you in every post...

The t1000 is very inconsistent. And you appraisal of it's wolverine killing capabilities is very inconsistant with two sagas of movies.

Of what? The 48 secs thing..? Already posted.

But those people havent been hit with stuff that would clearly kill anything else and anyoneelse. If you can watch the X movies and Origins, and come away with any other opinion, then theres no helping you. Not equally good: she died.

The battery acid one.

Anything. You failed to prove anything, whilst blindly asserting that Wolverine is not immortal....lives forever, cannot be killed has stood up to all methods of killing applied to him = Immortal (at least compared to one thing that couldn't even survive 1 movie)

You have no proof that it doesn't last 3 days, or even that it has one to begin with. Stop assuming and reaching.

Ok I'll give it to you again, Mr, hypocritical "I dont have to prove shit": Wolverine has survived 4 movies and 5 or 6 wars of people trying to kill him. Methods include and are not limited to: Burning, shooting, stabbing, hacking, blunt impact trauma, life endangering surgery that would have killed pretty much anyone else, atomising, and varieties of mutant attacks that are amplified versions of several of these. He even "died" and came back from that. He doesn't even age. [b]Ergo: Immortal. Hes like Connor McLeod but with an admantium skeleton preventing decapitation.
Yeah he would survive molten metal most likely. All evidence points to it, especially as molten admantium was pumped into him and he simply healed.. [/B]

It's stronger than the T-800. That's more than enough to ko Logan.

Implying Wolvie would have survived the lava pit. Pro tip - he wouldn't have.

Hey, if you can't come up with an argument in favor of the T-X just say so.

Another failure to present an argument. Nice.

It's very consistent. Nothing managed to stop it save for the molten metal. Wolverine's only been effective against humans. Mysique, Juggernaut, Lady Deathstrike, Magneto have completely owned his ass. That's pretty bad for a centuries old "immortal" (still laughing like crazy btw) badass.

So show me Wolverine recovering faster from a huge explosion.

I'd love to but there's no need. There are plenty of incidents of people surviving acid attacks.

The problem is you're assuming Phoenix is god. She's not all-powerful, she can't "kill anything" and she was clearly holding back against him anyway. Origins clearly establishes you need to have a hf as good as Wolverine's to survive the adamantium procedure. That's why Sabretooth didn't have any done on himself because he was inferior. So Lady D had a hf superior to Sabretooth's for a fact. And she was clearly > Wolverine in all other areas. It's only luck that saved him there.

Dude, please stop reaching. Why would the T-1000 have a 3-day battery? Jesus, I've heard of low-balling but this is pathetic.

You cannot seriously believe any of that garbage you wrote. Let's break it down.
Burning, shooting, stabbing, hacking - all things the T-1000 has tanked with no problem. Wolverine was never attomized so he never survived that. Phoenix failed to burn away more than 50% of his flesh. I'm unimpressed. When did he die and come back? The aging part is true but that doesn't make him 100% immortal. There's absolutely no way a guy that gets koed by bullets would survive being dunked in molten metal.

Never denied the 48 second thing btw. Learn to read.

Its never displayed any qualities that would indicate strength above the T800. Just the wat that T800 flung those 16 stone orderlies and the biker gang at the beginning showed feats way above any displayed feats by the T1000.

Pro at what? lol You have nothing to back that assertion up.
Meanwhile, Wolverine's display against Pheonix alone is evidence that Wolverine would have handled it way better than T1000.

Why bother: Its just strawmannery and irrelevence but yeah the TX is superior to the T1000 for reasons that:
A) It has shape shifting/camou ability
B) But also has built in weapons: IE Flame thrower, cutting saw, plasma cannon
C) Can control mechanical objects around it
D) Displayed superior strength to the T1000 in unarmed combat against a T800 series model
But as i say, It's relevance was limited.

His regen against Phoenix is enough to go on. No matter the gas tank explosion: If he can remained conscious and regenning through that, getting through a quick petrol tank exposion will be apeice of cake. And you dont think he survived and regenned from explosions in the 5/6 wars he fought in?

Acids affect organics differently to metals. Depends on the acid.
And also: watch Aliens. Molecular acid would not fail, even if hydrochloric acid were to fail..

Nope. The actual problem is that you keep trying to put words into my mouth. She doesn't have to have theological attributes. She just has to be able to f**k people up at the molecular/atomic level...and she did. 🙂 Didnt work on Wolverine though cause of his regen was so fast that it could keep up. T1000 wouldn't.
Lady Deathstrike died therefore her HF is not equal to Wolverine's.

Well what battery does he have? Where was it, What was it?
Surely you must know if you are 100% certain Im wrong. 🙂

He was getting atomised by phoenix.
You say it had no problem, yet it often had to stop for regens too.
It matters not: It still would come back even if it was 100%.

"Yes way". You make it sound like he gets KO'd all the time. Wrong again. And he survived it being poured into him. So again, you're wrong.

Originally posted by Psychotron
In fact, the T-1000 was never regenerating for more than a few seconds in the films.

Originally posted by Psychotron

Never denied the 48 second thing btw. Learn to read.

As you can see, I read just fine. Perhaps you need to learn to think.

Wolverine can win here? How?

Wolverine doesn't have an arm cannon which shoots substances as hot as molten steel or as cold as liquid nitrogen or explosive blasts equal to that of a fuel tanker, so he has no way of hurting the T-1000.

T-1000 can easily create a thin appendage to drill a hole through Wolverine's eye into his brain or through his ribcage. Wolverine's only method of attacking the T-1000 is by stabbing it with his claws, which is guaranteed to do a grand total of jack shit.

And Wolverine surviving Phoenix can always be attributed to PIS. One could always make the argument that Jean was subconsciously holding back.

Either T-1000 wins, or stalemate. Wolverine has no way of coming out of this the victor unless he somehow outlives the T-1000's battery lifespan.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Wolverine can win here? How?

Same way the T-1000 can, via KO.