Wolverine vs T-1000

Originally posted by marwash22
T-1000 is a Terminator, not a Bondagator. It wouldn't do what you suggest.

lol, you edited your post.

The OP doesn't state where this fight takes place, so I'm gonna assume it's a giant open field... dunno where the T-1000 is gonna get access to this machinery you speak of.

So you're saying that Wolverine will have an easier time dismembering the T1000 and running off to hide his limbs rather than the T1000 just immoblizing Logan's arms????

The T1000 isn't exactly just gonna lie there and allow Wolverine to run off with it's limbs.

Like I said, yes what you suggested will work, but that's far far harder than what the T1000 needs to do to wrap up Wolverine, whether that's tying him up, getting his hands stuck in machinery, or pinning him in a such a position that his claws can't get him out.

Heck, the T1000 can probably just bearhug wolverine, pinning his arms to his sides, and Logan will be helpless to do anything from that position.

Besides, if the OP doesn't state where this takes place, why are you assuming it's in an open field?

giant open (empty) field is a much better (non-biased) assumption to make than setting the fight in a place with machinery specifically designed to fit within your scripted vision of how the fight will play out.

Also, who said anything about running off to take each piece somewhere? All Wolverine needs to do is throw the pieces in different directions.

the Bearhug idea is a weird one... if the T-1000 is keeping Wolverine in place like that, it means it also has to be immobile. In that scenario, it would be a draw, not a win.

Did you guys see what Logan did to-

-The apartment ladder during the fight against Gambit in Origins?
-What the claws did to the Farmhouse bathroom when Logan was testing what the claws could do?
-What those claws did to a large foot thick metal blast door when he escaped the Weapon X installation?
-The fact that he owned Sabertooth. A being far more skilled that the T1000.

The T1000 fought very stiffly and basically when fighting Arnie. Relied on simpled grab and throw against wall maneuvers.

All Logan needs is a few arm strikes then a neck strike and the T1000 goes down. Then goes into Regen-Mode.

Whilst in Regen-Mode the T1000 has only one feat of grabbing Arnie's arm and putting him in a advantageous situation. All other feats had the T1000 go into spaz mode whilst taking heavy damage. Including Sarah Conner slowly shooting him into the molten metal pit until she ran out of bullets.

He was a very stilted character. The bane of all Terminators. They aren't swift, they lack creativity.

Originally posted by Robtard
So it stayed down flat on its back both motionless and with a look of death on its face until it put itself back together because?

It's a machine, it doesn't have human emotions so it's expression is not relevant. There are scenes later in the film where the T-1000 is shot repeatedly and not knocked out or even knocked down so this argument won't work.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Did you guys see what Logan did to-

-The apartment ladder during the fight against Gambit in Origins?
-What the claws did to the Farmhouse bathroom when Logan was testing what the claws could do?
-What those claws did to a large foot thick metal blast door when he escaped the Weapon X installation?
-The fact that he owned Sabertooth. A being far more skilled that the T1000.

The T1000 fought very stiffly and basically when fighting Arnie. Relied on simpled grab and throw against wall maneuvers.

All Logan needs is a few arm strikes then a neck strike and the T1000 goes down. Then goes into Regen-Mode.

Whilst in Regen-Mode the T1000 has only one feat of grabbing Arnie's arm and putting him in a advantageous situation. All other feats had the T1000 go into spaz mode whilst taking heavy damage. Including Sarah Conner slowly shooting him into the molten metal pit until she ran out of bullets.

He was a very stilted character. The bane of all Terminators. They aren't swift, they lack creativity.

I guess you missed the part in T2 where Arnie says the T-1000 is a LIQUID metal Terminator. It doesn't matter how sharp Wolverine's claws are because you can't cut liquid.

Wolverine might cut him once or twice when he's solid, but then the T-1000 will go into that semi-liquid form that he used to go through the iron bars in the hospital, or when Arnold punched him, or when Arnold sliced him with the metal rod. And then there's nothing Wolverine can do but bend over and take it like a man.

Originally posted by Psychotron
It doesn't matter how sharp Wolverine's claws are because you can't cut liquid.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Wolverine might cut him once or twice when he's solid, but then the T-1000 will go into that semi-liquid form that he used to go through the iron bars in the hospital, or when Arnold punched him, or when Arnold sliced him with the metal rod. And then there's nothing Wolverine can do but bend over and take it like a man.

Originally posted by marwash22
that is factually incorrect in both the movie and irl.

what exactly does T-1000 do to put Wolverine down?

How do you cut liquid? Especially liquid that can shape and reshape itself into whatever it wants.

Beat the shit out of him? Suffocate him? Incapacitate him? The T-1000 has a million options. Wolverine has none.

If its in liquid state, it cant do anything to Wolverine.

If it reassembles its structure to be more substantial, its buggered.

Freeze the liquid, and you can cut it all day and make Groundhog Day style ice sculptures from it by carving it with Admantium claws.

Wolverine is different from its usual victims, what with the potentially longer lifespan advantage, claws that can cut metal, so-far-unkillability and the T-1000's proven damageable regenerative ability (via on screen feats in T2) and vulnerability to extreme heat and cold. Wolverine would most likely have access to hot and cold, if the fight is on earth.

Originally posted by Psychotron
How do you cut liquid? Especially liquid that can shape and reshape itself into whatever it wants.

Originally posted by marwash22
pour some water on a flat surface and run your finger down the middle of the puddle. Same principle applies in this fight... even in liquid form, Wolverine can cut the T-1000's head off.

Except water can't move or reform itself on it's own.
Re-watch T2, the T-1000 can move shit through itself without leaving a hole when it's in it's liquid form.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
If its in liquid state, it cant do anything to Wolverine.

If it reassembles its structure to be more substantial, its buggered.

Freeze the liquid, and you can cut it all day and make Groundhog Day style ice sculptures from it by carving it with Admantium claws.

Wolverine is different from its usual victims, what with the potentially longer lifespan advantage, claws that can cut metal, so-far-unkillability and the T-1000's proven damageable regenerative ability (via on screen feats in T2) and vulnerability to extreme heat and cold. Wolverine would most likely have access to hot and cold, if the fight is on earth.

Uh-huh. Back to that liquid nitrogen nonsense again, I see. Where is Wolvie getting that stuff from again?

The fact is Wolverine has been knocked out by a single bullet in X2 and by Sabretooth in X1. Lady Deathstrike was also getting the better of him. The guy isn't immortal. T-1000 beats him up or stabs him in the heart and calls it a day.

We're not even sure Wolverine can actually "slice off" any part of the T1000. From what we have seen in the movie, T1000 automatically reforms around any object used to slice, hit, puncture through him, like he reformed around the steel pipe or arnold's fist when he punched him. He'll probably just reform immediately right after Logan's claws go through him. There's no proof that shows Logan can actually slice off parts of him.

The only times that parts of the T1000 were "disconnected" from his body, it was due to the explosive force of firearms. Wolverine doesn't generate such explosive force.

The T-1000 in liquid form reforms itself around objects that aren't sharp enough and moving at a fast enough speed to cut it before the "shapeshifting" can take effect. Wolverine's claws do not fall into that category.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The T1000 has almost no facial expressions. It's not even exactly alive so it's very easy for it to look "dead" or "knocked out".

But regardless, even if what you say is true, and it was trully knocked out, it still took 6 shots to take it down while it took only 1 to take down Wolverine. How do you reply to that?

It's obviously clear in that scene that in went into some suspend mode while it 'healed' for those 11 seconds.

How? The same way I already replied. Wolverine will cut it into pieces and it will be effectively ko'd for a time while it 'heals' itself; that's a forum win. As far as the T-1000 knocking out Logan as was mentioned as the way it would win, it doesn't have a gun and the claws/spikes/blades it can make won't put Logan down before Logan dices and slices it apart. He's the far superior combatant here. Compare his fights with Deathstrike and Sabretooth and the amateur hour the T-1000 did when it went H2H with the T-800.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Except water can't move or reform itself on it's own.
Re-watch T2, the T-1000 can move shit through itself without leaving a hole when it's in it's liquid form.

Uh-huh........... Back to that liquid nitrogen nonsense again, I see. Where is Wolvie getting that stuff from again?

The fact is Wolverine has been knocked out by a single bullet in X2 and by Sabretooth in X1. Lady Deathstrike was also getting the better of him. The guy isn't immortal. T-1000 beats him up or stabs him in the heart and calls it a day.

Well Once the T-1000 has to regenerate, it has to stop what it's doing to reassemble/re-order...and more damage it takes, less effective it is, by screenfeats.
Forget rewatching, actually watch T2 for the first time to see this lol

More denial of anything that might endanger a biased T1000 win nonsense again..
A power station? A hospital? The truck that was featured in T2.
Plenty of things that are extreme heat too, that seems to prevent quick cohesion too.

Oh.. that admantium bullet, you mean? "And wheres he gonna get that?".
T-1000 is not Sabretooth.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Except water can't move or reform itself on it's own.
Re-watch T2, the T-1000 can move shit through itself without leaving a hole when it's in it's liquid form.

Uh-huh. Back to that liquid nitrogen nonsense again, I see. Where is Wolvie getting that stuff from again?

The fact is Wolverine has been knocked out by a single bullet in X2 and by Sabretooth in X1. Lady Deathstrike was also getting the better of him. The guy isn't immortal. T-1000 beats him up or stabs him in the heart and calls it a day.

lol the T1000 isn't the world's greatest h2h fighter you are "al bundying" him to be.. second i don't recall the T1000 stabbing anyone so please find the scene for me either on youtube or metacafe.. third logan will regen after being stabbed in the first place

That Terminator once scored 4 touchdowns in a single game in high school football, y'know... 😉

Yeah it did stab, but it had never stabbed anyone who could regenerate and that had a near inpenetrable Admantium skeleton protecting the organs...

Also I like how Wolverine isn't allowed any devices, like Liquid Nitrogen or guns etc etc Yet T-1000 was allowed guns according to his fan in this earlier... lolz I say to thee....

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
lol the T1000 isn't the world's greatest h2h fighter you are "al bundying" him to be.. second i don't recall the T1000 stabbing anyone so please find the scene for me either on youtube or metacafe.. third logan will regen after being stabbed in the first place

And his skull was a regular one, wasnt it...

What's your point?

He can try stabbing Wolverine in the head all he likes:

1) It probably wont penetrate the Admantium skull,

2) Wolverine would most likely just chop the arm off on the way in.

No one said he would stab Wolverine in the head...