Movie Avengers vs. Movie and Book Twilight Characters.

Originally posted by Newjak
Except there is precedent that other beings can in fact resist vampire powers. Werewolves were able to do it, even other vampires, depending on their toughness or if they are a shield.

1. Werewolves are magical beings with magical powers. They are the anti-Vampire unit. No characters from Avengers are designed specifically to resist vampire powers from the Avengers team. You are inventing powers for the Avengers.
2. Vampires have magically powers. Of course some magical powers are going to work against the others, depending on the nature of those magical powers. You are inventing powers for the Avengers.

Originally posted by Newjak
Technically in Avengers Ironman was shown to be able to contiguously use his lasers without them seemingly depleted when he tried to cut through a levitation.

He was not.

Originally posted by Newjak
You really wanna settle the speed debate.

I can name Bella's first hunt after she turned into a vampire. A MOUNTAIN LION was able to tag her and rip her cloths off.

Since there are other feats and Bella was literally a newborn who had knowledge and control over her superhuman powers (she was being trained, literally, at that point), your point is low-balling. You're trying too hard.

That would be the same as me pretending that Ironman's control over his thrusters were what they were when he was testing them and he splatted against the wall. lol

I already settled the debate. If you want to use low-end feats for vamps, go ahead: but you can't do it in my thread. No will I tolerate low-end feats from the avengers being used.

Originally posted by Newjak
Now mind you as described in the books, minus vampire powers, a newborn vampire is about as powerful as a vampire can get.

You're missing out on something: physically. Not mentally, physically.

Originally posted by Newjak
So while she was at her strongest and fastest she will ever be as a vampire, I repeat, a Mountain Lion was able to attack and rip her cloths off. With the kind of speed you attribute to them dodging or reacting to a mountain lion attack should have been nothing for a newborn.

That's where you were going with that? lol Already countered above.

Originally posted by Newjak
I like how you take the metoer and thunder comments made by bella as fact in trying to prove the vamps are hypersonic.

Those are just some examples, those are not all. The most damning is when Edward ran from Forks to Phoenix.

Originally posted by Newjak
She actually doesn't know how hard or how far the vamps were actually hitting the balls therefore any numbers you could come up with are based on similes made by a human trying to comprehend what is going on.

Which does not bode well for you.

A baseball, when struck by peak humans, travels close to 130 mph.

Add in a vampire that is thousands of time stronger than humans and then add in a vampire that chases down and catches the ball in the blink of an eye.

The result: you just tried to downplay an absurd feat bit failed to realize the implications of said feat.

Like I said, 616 quicksilver speeds.

Originally posted by Newjak
Also I said it was one of the reasons why the older vamp said they wanted to remain hidden, but he did make the fact that humans could harm vampires very clear and in the same sentence he used it as an excuse to the reason they needed to kill Renesme.

I already countered this argument. You're talking in circles, now.

Originally posted by Newjak
They didn't resist the tornado Thor has fine control over it so that only things inside the vortex would be effected afterall it was tossing cars around and cars are much heavier than a human.

Well...you're really just exaggerating at this point.

Only those items very close to the vortex were affected. Those with in about 10 feet of the vortex. The tornado wasn't spinning that fast and the items picked up were those directly inside the vortex. This magically control he doesn't have. He has a slow moving tornado that is enough to pick up cars directly inside and move turned over cars within 10 feet of the vortex. It's weak. It is absurd to think any of the vampires will just sit there and wait for it to pick them up.

Originally posted by KingD19
Lol at comparing vamp speed to Quicksilver.

lol@you thinking QS is better than he is.

Originally posted by KingD19
Quicksilver has crossed continents in less than a second.

Not current Quicksilver.

Originally posted by KingD19
He was in the middle of a conversation, left before the next syllable came out of the girls mouth, then came back with flowers in his hair that only grew on a specific continent.

Not current QS and Edward has done similar but not to another continent.

Originally posted by KingD19
He's also run halfway across the world in roughly half a minute.

Not current QS.

Originally posted by KingD19
And just recently he punched Magneto going at Mach 4 or Mach 5.

Which fits nicely with one of Edward's feats (Edward has that beat, iirc.).

Originally posted by KingD19
No vamp is that fast.

Well, you tried, right?

😄

Originally posted by Robtard
Don't take your rage out on me cos someone else pwned your ass with book facts and I stated your obvious intentions in trying to force the outcome of the match, brah.

Yes, it's rage that you're lost in this thread and I called out your cheerleading: that makes perfect sense.

Ladies and gentleman, this is what happens when you disagree with me. No matter how many of you there are, I will destroy you systemically and completely. Bask in my awesome victories over your pathetic attempts at this thing you call "debate".

mwhahahahahahahaaaaaaa!

dadudemon is the strongest there is!

This is all current Quicksilver. The flowers feat happened earlier this year.

He punched Magneto at Mach 4 during AvX, also earlier this year.

And he ran across the world late last year or very early this year.

What vamp feat beats those? All from Current Quicksilver.

You might be thinking of Classic Quicksilver whose just around Mach 1. But after losing his Terrigen powers, his speed came back and got boosted by a huge amount.

He's also outrun radio waves.

Which does not bode well for you.

A baseball, when struck by peak humans, travels close to 130 mph.

Add in a vampire that is thousands of time stronger than humans and then add in a vampire that chases down and catches the ball in the blink of an eye.

The result: you just tried to downplay an absurd feat bit failed to realize the implications of said feat.

Like I said, 616 quicksilver speeds.

Faster than 130 mph isn't a big deal. So it's faster. It could be... 200 MPH! Edward, probably supersonic on some level catches up to a probably subsonic ball, oh shit. However will anyone handle that?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This is garbage for many reasons.

Actually, whatever you're about to post is garbage because you opened your post in reply to one of my posts by saying that.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Faster than 130 mph isn't a big deal.

1. I told you it would be garbage. Last I checked, no human can run even close to 130+ MPH in an instant.
2. Overtaking that baseball nigh-instantly when it is struck by a being that is thousands of time stronger than a human is far faster than 130+ MPH.
3. We don't need that feat, alone, to show that Edward's speed is hypersonic. But it certainly illustrates the type of speed of which he is capable.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So it's faster. It could be... 200 MPH! Edward, probably supersonic on some level catches up to a probably subsonic ball, oh shit. However will anyone handle that?

Yup: knew your reply would be worthless garbage. To overtake it near instantly by a being that has 1000s of times the strength of a human is quite impressive. We don't know how fast Edward had to be to accomplish that but we can go ahead and assume it fits in-line with another of his speed feats: 3000-6000mph.

Originally posted by KingD19
This is all current Quicksilver. The flowers feat happened earlier this year.

Do you have a scan or two of this?

Originally posted by KingD19
He punched Magneto at Mach 4 during AvX, also earlier this year.

That's still slower than Edward.

Originally posted by KingD19
And he ran across the world late last year or very early this year.

Do you have a scan of that, too?

Originally posted by KingD19
What vamp feat beats those? All from Current Quicksilver.

Edward. He's hypersonic.

Originally posted by KingD19
You might be thinking of Classic Quicksilver whose just around Mach 1.

I grew up reading Marvel in the 80s and 90s.

However, now, I was thinking of 2000s Quicksilver who is supposed to be around 3000mph, iirc.

Originally posted by KingD19
But after losing his Terrigen powers, his speed came back and got boosted by a huge amount.

This is news to me.

Originally posted by KingD19
He's also outrun radio waves.

He hasn't. 😬

Originally posted by dadudemon

Do you have a scan or two of this?

That's still slower than Edward.

Do you have a scan of that, too?

Edward. He's hypersonic.

I grew up reading Marvel in the 80s and 90s.

However, now, I was thinking of 2000s Quicksilver who is supposed to be around 3000mph, iirc.

This is news to me.

He hasn't. 😬

Not flowers, leaves. And he ran from Tibet to Indonesia in the span of a second or two going by the conversation US Agent and that woman were having. Tibet to Indonesia is roughly 4,600km, 9,200 there and back. And this was all in the span of a second or so. So not to another continent, but from one side of Asia to another almost.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/MarcusP2/14a7968e.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/MarcusP2/5fc757f3.jpg

How fast is Edward exactly? Do you have solid feats and numbers? Max speed?

Pietro's far faster than that, he only hit Magneto that fast(slow) so he wouldn't hurt him too bad, as Magneto's durability highly rests with his shields. Still good feat for dad though as all he got was a bloody lip.

I'm trying to track it down and downloading the event where it happened, if I can't find it I'll just scan it and post it when it's done.

What feats does Edward have that make him faster than Pietro?

Well if you grew up reading comics then, you need to catch up. You're basing Quicksilver off of a severely outdated version. And he's capable of high end mach feats regularly now.

His upgrade was essentially off panel. He just showed up one day and was insanely fast.

Magneto informing Northstar(one of the fastest people on the planet), he isn't nearly as fast as Quicksilver -

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8595/xmen113pk8.jpg

He hasn't run faster than Radio Waves?
http://i43.tinypic.com/ips7d2.jpg

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Quicksilver has had quite the upgrade in the past few years Dadudemon I don't have scans but I'll have a go.

Found it - http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5749/assaultonnewolympus12.jpg

Ran halfway across the world in 92 seconds.

Wow so much Avenger support.
They lose tho... 😕

Who ever wins Twilight still remains ghey as phuck....

I'm not arguing in favor of anybody, because this seems to be a supposed intentional spite thread.

I'm just pointing out that the vamps are not as fast as Quicksilver. Which I think I've proven.

Originally posted by dadudemon
2. Overtaking that baseball nigh-instantly when it is struck by a being that is thousands of time stronger than a human is far faster than 130+ MPH.

Was that baseball made of adamantium?

Cos baseballs break apart if hit too hard by fat guys like Babe Ruth and roided out fools like Barry Bonds. The bats too.

Originally posted by Robtard
Was that baseball made of adamantium?

Cos baseballs break apart if hit too hard by fat guys like Babe Ruth and roided out fools like Barry Bonds. The bats too.

Vampires also burn to death in sunlight. She's retarded...

tl;dr.. even though i have no idea what that means

Originally posted by juggerman
Vampires also burn to death in sunlight. She's retarded...

While she's a no talent hack for a writer, I can't rip on her for not including the 'burns in sunlight' aspect, Stoker didn't have it in Dracula. Now the sparkle shit, yeah, that's retarded.

Originally posted by Robtard
Stoker didn't have it in Dracula.

The only thing Dracula couldn't during the daylight hours is shapeshift.

He usually slept during the day, but he could still walk around in broad daylight, that would just be the equivelant of staying up late for him. And he still retained his unholy strength, comparable to twenty men in one arm (Beowulf's strength is similarly described, random trufax).

But that's Dracula! The king of vamps. Not low level scrubs like in Twilight

Originally posted by KingD19
He hasn't run faster than Radio Waves?
http://i43.tinypic.com/ips7d2.jpg

😕

Bullshit. That's hyperbole to the max. Radiowaves move at the speed of light (as fast as light moves through the atmosphere) because radiowaves are em radiation. Unless you want to claim that Quicksilver has a greater-than-infinite amount of energy in which to accomplish that task?

Eh? Comics don't follow real world physics in that regard. Many characters such as Flash, Superman, and SS are able to move at speeds far faster than light.