JLA Battle Royal.

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Re: JLA Battle Royal.

Superman > CA >= MM > Hal = WW > FS

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Superman

1. Man of Tomorrow #13. Stopped by Kyle Rayner Green Lantern synthesizing kryptonite.
2. Wonder Woman #219. Part of Greg Rucka's Sacrifice. Rolls the JLA minus Wonder Woman. Stopped by Wonder Woman throwing her tiara and slashing Superman's throat after an intense one-on-one, though Diana holds back her full power throughout the fight, knowing Superman is not to blame for his actions. Resolved with finality by Diana snapping Superman's controller's neck.

Since Kyle's not here, and WW couldn't beat Superman without resorting to killing Lord, I say that's twice Superman has beaten the League.


Martian Manhunter

1. Fernus, the Burning. JLA Trial by Fire. J'onnz reverts into his prehistoric fire resistant form. Rolls the JLA with ease in Round 1. The Guardians save Green Lantern John Stewart who is able to play the part of Cavalry for his teammates. Team manages to regroup ... eventually.
2. Malefaak (Malefic). Ostrander. J'onnz is possessed by the spirit of his brother. Holds his own for awhile against EVERYONE ganging up on him.


Fernus is...kinda different, but these two fights show J'onn is up there, and can beat the League.


Firestorm

Fury of Firestorm #4? Heard Firestorm takes on, and possibly down, the rest of the JLA in this one. Haven't read it yet, though.

Think, THINK, it was PreCrisis, if its the Killer Frost one. Superman was winning that fight, and the JLA was made up of: Supes, WW, Red Tornado, Zatanna and Hawkman. So not a sterling showing.


Captain Atom

Monarch. Countdown to Final Crisis.
Monarch seems to have subdued all major superheroes on his planet.
Defeated by Superman Prime with guardian amp ripping his containment suit.


Massive amp. So not a showing for standard CA.


Hal Jordan
Zero Hour. Parallax.

Supermassive amp.


Wonder Woman

League of One. Picks off JLA members one by one except Superman, who is her failsafe for rescuing those teammates while she herself battles a fate-decreed Death-empowered Dragon, saving her teammates' lives. [/B]


One on one sneak attacks, plus she had to resort to using the JLA teleporters for J'onn. And took around 9 pages to put Batman down. Plus, didn't even fight Superman because she knew she couldn't beat him.

So, based on their comic showings, its between Superman and MM. With Superman edging MM out.

IMHO, if my spin on the fights are correct lol.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Hal Jordan
Zero Hour. Parallax.

lol?

For hal, he could've at least put GL v3 65.

Lol might as well toss Red Son Superman, equally valid lol....

@Dark

You do know Wonder Woman was holding back in Sacrifice, right? Don't understand where you got the idea she couldnt beat him.

Originally posted by carver9
@Dark

You do know Wonder Woman was holding back in Sacrifice, right? Don't understand where you got the idea she couldnt beat him.

I know...and Superman was mind controlled.

Ok, in your opinion, what could WW have done to end the fight and beat Superman?

Originally posted by carver9
@Dark

You do know Wonder Woman was holding back in Sacrifice, right? Don't understand where you got the idea she couldnt beat him.


That was included in the 2nd print, seeing his pet character get trashed by superman didn't went well with Rucka. Also it was "barely" and even with attacking weak points of his body, she could only bring him down for a moment. She wasn't holding back for the soccer kick though as evident. Also Johns revealed in Booster Gold that superman would've killed diana if she hadn't killed max lord.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I know...and Superman was mind controlled.

Ok, in your opinion, what could WW have done to end the fight and beat Superman?

What she did at the end of the battle. You must forgot the part where she grabbed her tiara and threw it AND sliced his throat before he had the chance to react.? Yeah, you clearly forgot. He was vulnerable at that point. Vulnerable to the point that she had enough time to turn around, say a speech, and break someone neck. Even after this, he was still standing there holding his neck. What if she would have pressed her attack? What if she flew over there and beat him to sleep? What could he have done if she used the same tiara to slice his throat and fly over there to him and stabbed holes in his body...so many options.

Superman was set to kill while she was holding back and she still won in the end. Don't know why you are ignoring this.

Originally posted by carver9
What she did at the end of the battle. You must forgot the part where she grabbed her tiara and threw it AND sliced his throat before he had the chance to react.? Yeah, you clearly forgot. He was vulnerable at that point. Vulnerable to the point that she had enough time to turn around, say a speech, and break someone neck. Even after this, he was still standing there holding his neck. What if she would have pressed her attack? What if she flew over there and beat him to sleep? What could he have done if she used the same tiara to slice his throat and fly over there to him and stabbed holes in his body...so many options.

Superman was set to kill while she was holding back and she still won in the end. Don't know why you are ignoring this.


He got hit not because he couldn't react, he got hit because he thought he was fighting doomsday who doesn't go slitting up throats. Also, he stood up there because of the shock of breaking mind control, the slit throat didn't even stopped him from talking. In superman/batman, he got his throat slit by kryptonite and was still fighting. The fact that he couldn't fight back due to slit throat is just a myth.

Originally posted by carver9
What she did at the end of the battle. You must forgot the part where she grabbed her tiara and threw it AND sliced his throat before he had the chance to react.? Yeah, you clearly forgot. He was vulnerable at that point. Vulnerable to the point that she had enough time to turn around, say a speech, and break someone neck. Even after this, he was still standing there holding his neck. What if she would have pressed her attack? What if she flew over there and beat him to sleep? What could he have done if she used the same tiara to slice his throat and fly over there to him and stabbed holes in his body...so many options.

Superman was set to kill while she was holding back and she still won in the end. Don't know why you are ignoring this.

So you're saying he fight Diana the same way he fights Doomsday?

Originally posted by carver9
What she did at the end of the battle. You must forgot the part where she grabbed her tiara and threw it AND sliced his throat before he had the chance to react.? Yeah, you clearly forgot. He was vulnerable at that point. Vulnerable to the point that she had enough time to turn around, say a speech, and break someone neck. Even after this, he was still standing there holding his neck. What if she would have pressed her attack? What if she flew over there and beat him to sleep? What could he have done if she used the same tiara to slice his throat and fly over there to him and stabbed holes in his body...so many options.

Superman was set to kill while she was holding back and she still won in the end. Don't know why you are ignoring this.

Warned.

I mean is getting his throat slit really that much of a hindrance for superman as WW fangirls try to make it?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Warned.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Warned.

Why is that a warning when its the truth? I'm not holding that fight against a non mind controlled Superman because of course the fight would have went differently BUT to say Wonder Woman didn't hold the advantage in that fight (even though it wasnt a Superman fighting at his best) is ludicrious. We know Superman can beat WW but using that fight as evidence isn't supportive and that's exactly what Dark did.

Don't know why I got a warning for that.

Originally posted by carver9
We know Superman can beat WW but using that fight as evidence isn't supportive and that's exactly what Dark did.

Don't know why I got a warning for that.

Bluewater brought it up as evidence; OK, shall we all agree to strike that from the list?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Bluewater brought it up as evidence; OK, shall we all agree to strike that from the list?

I don't mind. 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
I don't mind. 🙂

So its still down to Supes and MM, based on the evidence of the comic fights, yes?

Originally posted by carver9
Why is that a warning when its the truth? I'm not holding that fight against a non mind controlled Superman because of course the fight would have went differently BUT to say Wonder Woman didn't hold the advantage in that fight (even though it wasnt a Superman fighting at his best) is ludicrious. We know Superman can beat WW but using that fight as evidence isn't supportive and that's exactly what Dark did.

Don't know why I got a warning for that.

It wasn't a serious warning.

You've been told about misrepresenting on panel feats before, though.

That, and you're wrong. shrug

This escalated quickly 💃