For martians, she handled the White Martian at the start of Morrison's run pretty easily.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Genocide also affected her with telepathy/emotion control. Only rucka wrote her as nearly immune to telepathy I think.
Genocide affected her emotions, but note that Diana was the only one immune to Genocide's more intense powers, which she used to turn Donna Troy against Diana, mess with Etta Candy, and KO John Stewart.
Later in the run, she also used the lasso to make herself immune to the effects of the Children of Ares, who turned an aztec flying serpent and Power Girl against her.
Originally posted by Q99
For martians, she handled the White Martian at the start of Morrison's run pretty easily.Genocide affected her emotions, but note that Diana was the only one immune to Genocide's more intense powers, which she used to turn Donna Troy against Diana, mess with Etta Candy, and KO John Stewart.
Later in the run, she also used the lasso to make herself immune to the effects of the Children of Ares, who turned an aztec flying serpent and Power Girl against her.
Also those feats of Genocide are pretty meh. Affecting Donna Troy? She KOED John via lasso.
Originally posted by Q99
Btw, JLA, League of One: Diana lassos J'onn, makes him revert to his true form (dunno why), punches him once, and then unlassoes him and throws him on a teleporter while he's stunned from the single punch.
Originally posted by -Pr-
While I think J'onn really should win, Diana would be more likely imo.
This.
J'onn really should be the most powerful leaguer, but no one will write him that way. (Although the current flock of writers really seem like they get a kick out of making her look pretty weak. He might have a shot! 😆 )
If Diana still has her tp immunity and the lasso retained its hax mode, I think it would actually be a very, very interesting fight. Minus those, J'onn should win on paper.
Originally posted by abhilegend
By outlasting her. She was also oneshotted by Trionix's martian vision. Later a random martian was doing the same to her untill superman saved her.Also those feats of Genocide are pretty meh. Affecting Donna Troy? She KOED John via lasso.
Total sucker shot. Martians in their natural forms are much weaker to the point parademons have beaten them.
And we've also seen martians go head to head with Superman in their native forms.
Yea, yea, you count things done by WW less than things done against her, we know. You're just too unreliable a source on these matters.
'Affected' as in Donna was mind-twisted into hated Diana and used against her. Now, considering that Donna's very strong willed, stronger willed than Etrigan, overcoming her mind and re-writing her loyalty is pretty solid.
Originally posted by Q99
And we've also seen martians go head to head with Superman in their native forms.Yea, yea, you count things done by WW less than things done against her, we know. You're just too unreliable a source on these matters.
'Affected' as in Donna was mind-twisted into hated Diana and used against her. Now, considering that Donna's very strong willed, stronger willed than Etrigan, overcoming her mind and re-writing her loyalty is pretty solid.
LOLWUT? Trionix didn't oneshot wonder woman or a random martian didn't have her in trouble untill superman stepped in?
I've never seen someone so ignorant try to accuse someone else being unreliable.
Being more willed than Etrigan isn't anything to be proud about, he doesn't has a very good record of having a willpower. She is still a meta level character at best.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's fast enough to keep up with Barry Allen in fighting
He can shrink to a subatomic particle, then grow again
He can regenerate from an arm
He's as strong as Superman (perhaps a notch below?)
She still needs to breathe - he can suffocate her by shapeshifting around her
He can phase into her head, or out of her lasso (her main hax weapon)
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Not to mention he could armor up with metals and grow shields and stabby weapons.
He pierced right through Etrigans chest, who's fairly durable. (Not to mention Diana isn't bullet proof, even though she should be..)
And everyone forgets he can go invisible. Knocked out The Weird using it, and ambushed Etrigan.
She still needs to breathe - he can suffocate her by shapeshifting around her
Btw, really bad idea- She can then lightning-of-Zeus him no problem. Cutting free may also be possible, but he'd be zapped massively by the bracers.
AbhLOLWUT? Trionix didn't oneshot wonder woman or a random martian didn't have her in trouble untill superman stepped in?
In case you miss the storyline, pretty much every Leaguer got taken out quickly when Martians backshotted them or similar just as they did Diana... then took out Martians later when they went head-on. Which, she does, without any real problem.
Sure, a White Martian who got her from behind gave her trouble, til Superman got it from behind. Here's a thing- a martian from behind will take down almost every herald, they're very powerful. No-one's saying that a martian can't do so. You're just ignoring that she also has had no problem beating martians when they aren't attacking from behind and she's taking them head-on. You mistake 'attacked from behind' with less powerful and ignore the times when she does take them head on.
I've never seen someone so ignorant try to accuse someone else being unreliable.
And yet, you're consistently wrong due to consistently leaving out half the story. Inconvenient facts and all that.
You're confusing 'includes stuff you leave out' as ignorant.
She is still a meta level character at best.
Who's beat down Superwoman. Odd definition of 'meta level,' and further illustrating how it's you who's ignorant.
You keep being wrong with examples that show you're wrong.
Originally posted by Q99Haha, what? Kyle oneshotted the martian sent to take him out and so did Wally. Superman backhanded stunned Primaid. What story you read? Wally and Kyle were taken out when J'onn shapeshifted in Fluxus and cheapshotted them.
In case you miss the storyline, pretty much every Leaguer got taken out quickly when Martians backshotted them or similar just as they did Diana... then took out Martians later when they went head-on.
Which, she does, without any real problem.Except not, she held her in one place untill Primaid got out of breath. Its not by her own power.
Sure, a White Martian who got her from behind gave her trouble, til Superman got it from behind.Except the martian didn't attack her from behind. She walked into its trap.
Honestly I've never seen someone lying so much and then calling someone unreliable. Also superman grabbed the martian from behind and made his presence known.
Here's a thing- a martian from behind will take down almost every herald, they're very powerful.And it wasn't an attack from behind.
No-one's saying that a martian can't do so. You're just ignoring that she also has had no problem beating martians when they aren't attacking from behind and she's taking them head-on.Like when? Malefic could've killed her with a direct MV strike according to superman and it still stunned her even after she blocked it.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomics101.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomics102.jpg
Later J'onn knocked her out as seen here.
http://i.imgur.com/t3Qx0Nh.jpg
You mistake 'attacked from behind' with less powerful and ignore the times when she does take them head on.
Name one time she has beaten a martian under her own power.
And yet, you're consistently wrong due to consistently leaving out half the story.You repeating something doesn't means its true.
Inconvenient facts and all that.What facts exactly?
You're confusing 'includes stuff you leave out' as ignorant.Name these "left out stuff".
Who's beat down Superwoman.Who has no feat of her own? Getting oneshotted by wonder woman twice isn't a good resume. Also she didn't beat superwoman either.
Odd definition of 'meta level,' and further illustrating how it's you who's ignorant.Just post one feat from Superwoman that screams herald level.
You keep being wrong with examples that show you're wrong.At this point, your excuses are just outright laughable. But tell me more about how Martians took out kyle or wally easily here.
Or how Wally didn't oneshot Zum here.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/zumimp.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/zumimp2.jpg
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http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/zumimp4.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/zumimp5.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/zumimp6.jpg
I mean just how many times I've to prove you wrong and you keep spouting the same thing as "LOLZ BRO, ME AM RIGHT AND YOU AM WRONG." Hint: keep repeating things doesn't makes you right. Proving it does.
