The original Matrix was great (+1). Reloaded was boring and extremely mediocre-- there were only a few moments even worth talking about (-1). Revolutions was utter shit (-1). Total score= -1
The original SW Trilogy was brilliant (+3). Episode I was absolutely horrendous (-1). Episode II was shitty until the last hour or so (-1). Episode III was decent overall (+1). Total score= +2.
The SW franchise has the better good/crap ratio. It wins. Numbers don't lie.
Lumping the original star wars films in with the prequels isnt fair. Lucas had full creative control over the prequels whereas in Episodes IV-VI many people had influence over it. It would be fair to say that the originals are better as a whole than the matrix trilogy, whereas the prequels were far more dissapointing.
Star Wars is at the top of the mythic mountain of pop culture. The only company it has up there on the peak is the LOTR series and Harry Potter(and they both come from book series), plus Indiana Jones. The Matrix series perhaps makes my top ten series, at best. But like many fans, I thought the series started swerving off the rails from the second film. They didn't even get out of one trilogy critically unscathed.
Originally posted by marwash22
i like how people treat the Original Trilogy like a sacred goat and ignore it's many, many flaws and completely shitty moments.take off the Solo cup colored glasses.
the OT wasn't brilliant, not by any stretch of the imagination.
Whether or not i agree with you i can only imagin what you think of the prequels. And that is more of the point i was making. And flaws are one thing. You have to look at the overall good story telling and how the characters played off of each other. The point here to look at is that even by popularity and the fact that the original series didnt write itself into a corner and ruin what was a very good original premise, it is a better franchise. ot counting the prequels which bog it down considerably.
I never actually said Matrix was the better franchise, I'm simply pointing out that a lot of nerds like to pretend Star Wars is this masterpiece that has no flaws and can stand up unfazed if put under the same microscope as other movies and franchises.
Dancing phucking Ewoks. lulz. that's one the dumbest things i have seen on screen and i have watched all the Twilight movies.
Originally posted by marwash22
I never actually said Matrix was the better franchise, I'm simply pointing out that a lot of nerds like to pretend Star Wars is this masterpiece that has no flaws and can stand up unfazed if put under the same microscope as other movies and franchises.Dancing phucking Ewoks. lulz. that's one the dumbest things i have seen on screen and i have watched all the Twilight movies.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Return of the Jedi was a heaping pile of shit, the worst Star Wars movie.For all of Jarjar's metrosexuality, Ewoks were worse.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Return of the Jedi was a heaping pile of shit, the worst Star Wars movie.For all of Jarjar's metrosexuality, Ewoks were worse.
Lucas quote(might be ver batum)
"Oh my gosh so many sets have been built, i'm gonna have to start writing a script soon."