Ozymandias vs Raizo

Started by Silent Master4 pages
Originally posted by omgchos
Yeah your argument is just childish at this point. Please just leave.

If you're going to use "calculations" to determine Raizo's speed, I want to see the same calcs used to determine how fast Ozy was moving when he caught the bullet. because I've seen the scene and he wasn't moving all that fast.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you're going to use "calculations" to determine Raizo's speed, I want to see the same calcs used to determine how fast Ozy was moving when he caught the bullet. because I've seen the scene and he wasn't moving all that fast.

That the scene was slowed down for theatrics. Slow-Mo starts right after she fires and continues until he falls down and starts rolling.

What do you suggest, her .38 revolver was firing "special" slow moving bullets?

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you're going to use "calculations" to determine Raizo's speed, I want to see the same calcs used to determine how fast Ozy was moving when he caught the bullet. because I've seen the scene and he wasn't moving all that fast.

Not only was that scene in slow motion, you qualified your argument by saying that i should prove the bullet moved that fast. Which i have done. Therefore if he aught it, however the movie was shot or edited he most definetly caught it, and therefore can move that fast.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm pretty sure Veidt has the resources to pay his electricity bill, considering he claimed to be worth more than several other high-profile CEOs combined.
lol, yeah. but I'm only going by what the OP set up, which is that the fight is obviously meant to take place in the dark.

Originally posted by marwash22
lol, yeah. but I'm only going by what the OP set up, which is that the fight is obviously meant to take place in the dark.

Fair enough.

Seems like a stupid setup, it's dark in the building but Veidt has night-goggles. Why not just go with a lite building, as there's shadows that way for Raizo to use and neither guy is gimped or amped.

I think we can all admit the thread starter eeds to clarify his language use. As the glasses Ozy gets have more than just nightvision and x ray capabilities. Yet what more is isnt clearly defined.

Originally posted by omgchos
Not only was that scene in slow motion, you qualified your argument by saying that i should prove the bullet moved that fast. Which i have done. Therefore if he aught it, however the movie was shot or edited he most definetly caught it, and therefore can move that fast.

If you're going to use calcs to determine Raizo's speed, you have to do the same for Ozy, so please provide the calcs that show how fast he was moving when the caught the bullet.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you're going to use calcs to determine Raizo's speed, you have to do the same for Ozy, so please provide the calcs that show how fast he was moving when the caught the bullet.

Its not about calcs here when it comes to how fast he was movieng. We dont need them because we know how fast the blullet travels. If i know for a fact that a car is traveling at 80 miles an hour and i can catch up to it in my car and match its speed, i dont have to look at my speedometer to know how fast im going.

Originally posted by omgchos
Its not about calcs here when it comes to how fast he was movieng. We dont need them because we know how fast the blullet travels. If i know for a fact that a car is traveling at 80 miles an hour and i can catch up to it in my car and match its speed, i dont have to look at my speedometer to know how fast im going.

Wrong, bullet speed can vary depending on the load, therefore you still need calcs to determine how fast it was going.

So again, If you're going to use calcs to determine Raizo's speed, you have to do the same for Ozy, so please provide the calcs that show how fast he was moving when the caught the bullet.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wrong, bullet speed can vary depending on the load, therefore you still need calcs to determine how fast it was going.

So again, If you're going to use calcs to determine Raizo's speed, you have to do the same for Ozy, so please provide the calcs that show how fast he was moving when the caught the bullet.

Asi said before the lowest load in a 38 is the 600 fps mark. Unless shes firing some kind of nerfed bullet which makes no sense at all i dont need calcs. Your asking me to prove how fast a bullet moves, then your asking me to prove he moved that fast, now falling back into the bullet arfument. Make up your mind tho it wont matter much.

Originally posted by omgchos
Asi said before the lowest load in a 38 is the 600 fps mark. Unless shes firing some kind of nerfed bullet which makes no sense at all i dont need calcs. Your asking me to prove how fast a bullet moves, then your asking me to prove he moved that fast, now falling back into the bullet arfument. Make up your mind tho it wont matter much.

Why are you so scared of doing the calcs, is it because you know that they'll show that Ozy wasn't moving anywhere near that fast when it caught the bullet?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why are you so scared of doing the calcs, is it because you know that they'll show that Ozy wasn't moving anywhere near that fast when it caught the bullet?

Not so much scareed of being wrong as of wasting my own time. You've seen proof and ignored it, whilst your arguments have become nothing but stubborn repeats of the same thing so im gonna go ahead and not respod to you anymore. Its bin a pleasure being right tho.

LoL, this guy.

If something is known (eg how fast a given bullet travels), it's up to you to prove it was travelling slower than the lowest possible speed. Not the other way around.

also, if you know how fast something is traveling and a person catches said object, it's reasonable to assume that the person is faster than the object. So at the very least, Ozy would be capable of moving at 601fps.

Real world lightning travels around 75 miles per second, however I'm fairly sure that if you did the calcs, Thor's lightning in Avengers wouldn't be shown as moving anywhere near that fast.

So, if your going to base your argument on calcs, you need to do them for both sides.

Originally posted by omgchos
Actually it does mean that. And yes he has shown the capability. Raizo moves at 400fps..... bullets move at 600+ fps. Some upwards of 1000.

Wait, where exactly did we get the figure that Raizo moves at 400 fps?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Real world lightning travels around 75 miles per second, however I'm fairly sure that if you did the calcs, Thor's lightning in Avengers wouldn't be shown as moving anywhere near that fast.

So, if your going to base your argument on calcs, you need to do them for both sides.

Except a gun is something that exist and has large amounts of quantifiable data. Sustained lightning (as lightning generally hits and is gone quickly) from a fictional alien being doesn't, so it may or may not follow known data.

Let's say for argument's sake that the bullet was moving at 600 fps, what's the proof that Raizo can't move that fast or even faster?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Let's say for argument's sake that the bullet was moving at 600 fps, what's the proof that Raizo can't move that fast or even faster?

Because he literally wasn't seen moving faster than a bullet. Unless I'm forgetting something in the film? Did he dodge bullets? Did he catch bullets? Did he race a bullet and win?

Originally posted by Robtard
Except a gun is something that exist and has large amounts of quantifiable data. Sustained lightning (as lightning generally hits and is gone quickly) from a fictional alien being doesn't, so it may or may not follow known data.

Thor used real lightning, he summond it into his hammer and then fired it at Iron-man.

So again, if your going to base your argument on calcs, you need to do them for both sides.