Ozymandias vs Raizo

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor used real lightning, he summond it into his hammer and then fired it at Iron-man.

So again, if your going to base your argument on calcs, you need to do them for both sides.

"He summond it into his hammer and then fired" because that's real and has shit loads of data on the subject like known bullet speeds.

I don't recall how slow (assuming it was slow) Thor's lightning blast were, but an argument could be made that Mjolnir affects the lightning, since a fictional hi-tech/magical hammer is just that.

Originally posted by Robtard
"He summond it into his hammer and then fired" because that's real and has shit loads of data on the subject like known bullet speeds.

It's lightning and lightning has a known travel speed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's lightning and lightning has a known travel speed.

Please show me known data on lightning being fired from a "magical" hammer?

You know what, this isn't worth arguing over, so I'll accept the 600 fps speed for the bullet.

That said, if the bullet needs to travel 7-10 feet to reach Ozy and he only needs to move his hand 1 foot in order to catch it, then he doesn't need to be moving anywhere near 600 fps.

So can we gets some calcs on just how fast Ozy was moving when he caught the bullet.

all these speed calculations are pointless because Ozy wont be able to see where the attack is coming from and his head will be on the floor moments after the fight starts.

Originally posted by marwash22
all these speed calculations are pointless because Ozy wont be able to see where the attack is coming from and his head will be on the floor moments after the fight starts.

Guy has super-awareness, as he was watching and taking in the info from over 100 televisions at once and knew exactly when Rorschach made his attack. Granted, he was aware that it was coming, he just didn't know exactly when. Same as here.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because he literally wasn't seen moving faster than a bullet. Unless I'm forgetting something in the film? Did he dodge bullets? Did he catch bullets? Did he race a bullet and win?

No, but he blurred in and out of screen faster than we could properly follow. We have no idea how fast he was going. Claiming that he wasn't as fast as a bullet is mere speculation and weak argument.

He could have been slower than a bullet or faster, but unless you can get concrete proof to backup something, saying that you're certain he is slower than a bullet is pure guesswork.

Originally posted by Robtard
Guy has super-awareness, as he was watching and taking in the info from over 100 televisions at once and knew exactly when Rorschach made his attack. Granted, he was aware that it was coming, he just didn't know exactly when. Same as here.

pretty sure sound played a part in him reacting to Rorschach.

Originally posted by FrothByte
No, but he blurred in and out of screen faster than we could properly follow. We have no idea how fast he was going. Claiming that he wasn't as fast as a bullet is mere speculation and weak argument.

He could have been slower than a bullet or faster, but unless you can get concrete proof to backup something, saying that you're certain he is slower than a bullet is pure guesswork.

So if you want to argue he was actually moving faster than a bullet despite what is shown, you make that case.

Originally posted by marwash22
Sure, he could take in a lot of information at once from multiple sources, but that's not quite the same thing as being able to sense where an attack will come from and when it will happen. He doesn't have Jedi precog.

pretty sure sound played a part in him reacting to Rorschach.

IIRC Rorschach was silent?

YouTube video

audible footsteps.

Originally posted by Robtard
I can visually see that while Raizo was moving fast(superhuman), he wasn't moving faster than a lower-end bullet, which are nearly invisible to the human eye.

So if you want to argue he was actually moving faster than a bullet despite what is shown, you make that case.

Are bullets human sized? Sure if Raizo was as small as your pinky you'd have trouble seeing him as well... or if bullet was as big as a human then we would still see it blurring despite it's speed.

Cmon man, common sense.

I ended up watching Ninja Assassin on TV again and got some new-found respect for Raizo's skills and abilities. He is one serious badass and when, at the end of the movie, he gets the ability to move so fast he blurs into invisibility he becomes nearly untouchable.

Reviving this thread just for the hell it and to pay my respect to Raizo, the man I'd pay if I needed Ozymandias assassinated.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
I ended up watching Ninja Assassin on TV again and got some new-found respect for Raizo's skills and abilities. He is one serious badass and when, at the end of the movie, he gets the ability to move so fast he blurs into invisibility he becomes nearly untouchable.

Reviving this thread just for the hell it and to pay my respect to Raizo, the man I'd pay if I needed Ozymandias assassinated.

Been about 6 years since I've seen Ninja Assassin, but Raizo should have his way with Ozy.