Originally posted by Galan007
Elder Kai stated that Goku's "true potential"(ie. SSJ4) wouldn't be unlocked until they pulled his tail back out. So yeah, GT pretty much gave the middle finger to Gohan's potential surpassing Goku's.
I'd say give Gohan his tail back so he can go SSJ4 as well, and get him back in the training game, and he'd pass them up again.
Originally posted by NemeBroChrist, I have repeatedly stated that GT is non-canon to the DBZ manga, and the multipliers used in Z are only rough approximations/guess-timations for GT-era PLs. Reading is your friend. 👆
What Goku was intended to be by the writers of the GT anime have no relevance towards the characters within the canon manga.Are you trolling? This isn't that hard to grasp.
Considering you evidently haven't been comprehending my posts, I'd actually call you a borderline troll at this point.
Originally posted by Galan007That you seem capable of grasping the notion that GT is noncanon yet incapable of grasping the notion that you can't use powerscaling between the two because of said fact either indicates a serious case of trolling on your point, or an impressively deficient grasp of logic.
Christ, I have repeatedly stated that GT is non-canon to the DBZ manga, and the multipliers used in Z are only rough approximations/guess-timations for GT-era PLs. Reading is your friend. 👆Considering you evidently haven't been comprehending my posts, I'd actually call you a borderline troll at this point.
Originally posted by Galan007
As I stated, all of the other multipliers referenced are just guess-timations that are based on what was formerly regarded as canon in Z. Like I also mentioned, said multipliers are likely drastic underestimations anyway. /shrug
Originally posted by Galan007
Reading is your friend. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
I'd actually call you a borderline troll at this point.
Originally posted by NemeBro
^As can be seen here, I don't give a **** about your quaint multipliers nor your "guess-timations", the very premise you are supporting is wrong.
Neme, your being intentionally dense...
Seriously, we never said Buu's power level fluctuated since the end of Z,, infact, thats the reason why he is mentioned as a useful yardstick. Goku saying Rildo is as strong as Buu was is a quantative estimation, and it being mentioned does not alter what it was. I have no idea why you think this is so terrible, but it is not up to you, and wether you like it or not, the thread discusses this, so kindly put up or GTFO.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero👆
Neme, your being intentionally dense...Seriously, we never said Buu's power level fluctuated since the end of Z,, infact, thats the reason why he is mentioned as a useful yardstick. Goku saying Rildo is as strong as Buu was is a quantative estimation, and it being mentioned does not alter what it was. I have no idea why you think this is so terrible, but it is not up to you, and wether you like it or not, the thread discusses this, so kindly put up or GTFO.
The childish tantrum/rant is getting old.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Neme, your being intentionally dense...Seriously, we never said Buu's power level fluctuated since the end of Z,, infact, thats the reason why he is mentioned as a useful yardstick. Goku saying Rildo is as strong as Buu was is a quantative estimation, and it being mentioned does not alter what it was. I have no idea why you think this is so terrible, but it is not up to you, and wether you like it or not, the thread discusses this, so kindly put up or GTFO.
When did I claim that you said Buu's power level fluctuated since the end of Z?
GT, the anime, is not canon to Z, the manga. Therefore, powerscaling or comparing one character's (In this case Rildo's) power to a character in Z's (Buu's) means absolutely nothing in a versus thread setting.
If Rildo has the feats and shit to suggest he is as powerful as Buu (Can't recall if he does, but I do know SSJ4 Goku has the feats to suggest he is more powerful than SSJ3 Goku from Z), fine, but Goku's, as he appeared in GT, claim concerning Rildo's comparative power to Buu means nothing in of itself.
If the thread is using Super Saiyan 4 Goku then it is acknowledging GT as canon(it's not but there ya go). No it's not canon to the manga, just the anime(where Buu is more impressive anyway) and even then only because of the thread.
So congrats NemeBro you're arguing over something completely irrelevant. If I didn't know you better I'd think you'd like to argue over pointless things because you have nothing better to do. uhuh
Originally posted by NemeBro
When did I claim that you said Buu's power level fluctuated since the end of Z?
Then why the hell are you crying about it?
Originally posted by NemeBro
GT, the anime, is not canon to Z, the manga. Therefore, powerscaling or comparing one character's (In this case Rildo's) power to a character in Z's (Buu's) means absolutely nothing in a versus thread setting.
You are being retarded...
The fact that the GT anime follows off of the Z anime is more than enough evidence to trounce your pithy little critique. The fact that this thread deals with a GT character vs 2 Z characters completely blows your shit out of the water here.
Originally posted by NemeBro
If Rildo has the feats and shit to suggest he is as powerful as Buu (Can't recall if he does, but I do know SSJ4 Goku has the feats to suggest he is more powerful than SSJ3 Goku from Z), fine, but Goku's, as he appeared in GT, claim concerning Rildo's comparative power to Buu means nothing in of itself.
Thats also bullshit, because not only does goood Buu and Uub both exist in GT, but because GT is a flow-on from Z, Goku has fought BOTH Fat Buu and Kid Buu, (and as Vegito he fough Buuhan too) means that Goku can draw that comparative from personal experience and compare it to what he felt from Rildo at the time he made that statement.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Neither Galan nor DSZ made this thread.
No, but neither did you, so stop pretending you can make the rules.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Their "opinions" concerning powerscaling from Z to GT are irrelevant for this thread, and, honestly, I can't imagine why this thread would be considered viable if they were acknowledging GT as canon to Z.
Z is canon to GT, not vice versa... GT may have mangled many things, but the events immediately flowed into GT following the end of Z. Reguardless of wether or not GT is canon, thats what this thread discusses, so please, go cry your rivers of crocodile tears elsewhere.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I am arguing because I am right, and they are wrong.
You are arguing simply to annoy. You are about as far from right as Phenomenol was when we trounced him reguarding Goku vs Pyron. Ok, maybe not THAT bad, Phenom was really bad, but your becoming an irritant with your insistances here Neme. Knock it off.