Avengers vs Death Eaters

Started by Silent Master51 pages

Originally posted by Placidity
I'm all for Mjolnir being able to block, but I'm not sure the armor comes with the package deal. How do you explain AK killing it's targets even though it is really only hitting their clothes?

Is AK really a simple magic bolt, or does it "know" when it has hit it's target, including clothes/armor that form part of the person (screen feat/logic discussion)?

Clothes and armor are hardly the same thing.

That all you got?

It's the truth, armor and clothes aren't made from the same material and thus their durability is different.

You might as well be arguing that being able to rip someone's shirt is proof that you can rip armor plating.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Derp.

I know right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's the truth, armor and clothes aren't made from the same material and thus their durability is different.

You might as well be arguing that being able to rip someone's shirt is proof that you can rip armor plating.

So are we back to durability negating magic again?

Originally posted by Placidity
I'm all for Mjolnir being able to block, but I'm not sure the armor comes with the package deal. How do you explain AK killing it's targets even though it is really only hitting their clothes?

Is AK really a simple magic bolt, or does it "know" when it has hit it's target, including clothes/armor that form part of the person (screen feat/logic discussion)?

Possible, but by that rational, a person hiding behind a shield or door that happens to be touching said shield or door would then be susceptible by those standards.

edit: Also, Mjolnir would then be rendered useless in blocking AK too by those same standards, since Thor would be touching the hammer.

IMO, the most logical is that barring clothes, unless said clothes has some specific anti-magic function, solid barriers negate AK.

Originally posted by Robtard
Possible, but by that rational, a person hiding behind a shield or door that happens to be touching said shield or door would then be susceptible by those standards.

No, not really, because it's not really "part of the person" as something worn is. But that raises interesting other questions too, like how it would affect someone like Iron Man. Personally I am more inclined to see that armor as an external physical barrier. But where does one draw the line?

Originally posted by Robtard

IMO, the most logical is that barring clothes, unless said clothes has some specific anti-magic function, solid barriers negate AK.

What if AK hit a wizard's shoe? It also makes you wonder, why nobody has put on some simple armor (light weight chain mail perhaps?) to protect themselves from the deadliest spell in the game.

Originally posted by Placidity
So are we back to durability negating magic again?

Solid object have been shown to stop spells.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Solid object have been shown to stop spells.

That really wasn't the point.

Clothes are solid objects too.

So the next thing you're going to say is that clothes aren't as "durable", back to square one.

Can AK pass through a paper screen to hit its target?

Originally posted by Placidity
That really wasn't the point.

Clothes are solid objects too.

So the next thing you're going to say is that clothes aren't as "durable", back to square one.

Can AK pass through a paper screen to hit its target?

Show me the AK going through armor and I'll change my opinion.

Originally posted by Placidity
No, not really, because it's not really "part of the person" as something worn is. But that raises interesting other questions too, like how it would affect someone like Iron Man. Personally I am more inclined to see that armor as an external physical barrier. But where does one draw the line?

What if AK hit a wizard's shoe? It also makes you wonder, why nobody has put on some simple armor (light weight chain mail perhaps?) to protect themselves from the deadliest spell in the game.

A shield is worn. There's no perfect answer, but I'd say if something (like armor) is specifically designed to protect/stop attacks, it's akin to a "physical barrier" and thereby stops AK.

Don't know, is it an armoured shoe? Yeah, that would make too much sense.

Originally posted by Robtard
A shield is worn. There's no perfect answer, but I'd say if something (like armor) is specifically designed to protect/stop attacks, it's akin to a "physical barrier".

Don't know, is it an armoured shoe? Yeah, that would make too much sense.

IIRC, both the books and the movies show the AK being stopped by solid objects, so I see no reason why armor wouldn't stop it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IIRC, both the books and the movies show the AK being stopped by solid objects, so I see no reason why armor wouldn't stop it.

Because clothes is also a solid object, so where is the exact line where AK can or can't pass.

Jeremy Renner 10/10.

Originally posted by Mindset
Jeremy Renner 10/10.

Inside the castle, he takes out 5-10 wizards before going down.

Outside the castle, he takes out 5-10 wizards before going down.

edit: and by "going down", I mean on Black Widow.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because clothes is also a solid object, so where is the exact line where AK can or can't pass.

If you can't tell the differnce between armor and cloth, I can't help you.

Originally posted by Robtard
Inside the castle, he takes out 5-10 wizards before going down.

Outside the castle, he takes out 5-10 wizards before going down.

edit: and by "going down", I mean on Black Widow.

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I'm inclined to believe that armor wouldn't have an effect on the killing curse. If whearing a bullet proof ves would stop it, why the hay are the Order of the phoenix going up against them in suits and bathrobes?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I'm inclined to believe that armor wouldn't have an effect on the killing curse. If whearing a bullet proof ves would stop it, why the hay are the Order of the phoenix going up against them in suits and bathrobes?
Why don't wizards just use assault rifles and rpgs?

They have spells that blow stuff up, teleport, mind control, incinerat crap,annd instant kills. If they spend seven years studing how to defend themselves from dark magic, how come no one came up with the bright idea of whearing armor during voldemort's first takeover? It can't be that simple.