Originally posted by omgchosDerp was banned on his other message board and has since made this his home. He rarely if ever debates and draws people into circular arguments because he's a known troll. Thor flat out says it isn't magic and people want to ignore the movie explanation due to fanboyism.
Well derp, they used it in hogsmead.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Derp was banned on his other message board and has since made this his home. He rarely if ever debates and draws people into circular arguments because he's a known troll. Thor flat out says it isn't magic and people want to ignore the movie explanation due to fanboyism.
not how I interrupted it at all. My interpretation was that magic was their science. Hence it being one in the same....
It sounds like you are interpreting it like Abra from The Flash.
By definition, anything that is knowable is a science. Depending on how you look at it, "magic" can become science when you develop enough of an understanding of it to no longer consider it "supernatural".
Also, aren't Thor's exact words (according to Robtard):
Jane Foster: Describe exactly what happened to you last night.
Thor: Your ancestors called it magic...
[Thor skims through a book on Norse mythology]
Thor: ...but you call it science. I come from a land where they are one and the same.
He never said it was entirely science and it seems to at least give weight to my theory.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
not how I interrupted it at all. My interpretation was that magic was their science. Hence it being one in the same....It sounds like you are interpreting it like Abra from The Flash.
Quan is wrong, Thor stated that to them magic and science are the same thing and according to the definition of the words.....he's right.
Heck, going by the actual definitions, magical artifacts could easily be classified as technology.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/technology
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/science
BTW, he's also lying about me being banned, I'm currently logged into the other forum now, I just haven't felt the need to post recently.
Originally posted by BlackZero30xRegardless of what it is it doesn't matter as the Avada Kedavra doesn't really have anything to do with durability.
not how I interrupted it at all. My interpretation was that magic was their science. Hence it being one in the same....It sounds like you are interpreting it like Abra from The Flash.
Originally posted by Silent MasterYou were banned and too butthurt to post there. Many have mocked you and laughed at you for it. Butthurt so very badly.
Quan is wrong, Thor stated that to them magic and science are the same thing and according to the definition of the words.....he's right.Heck, going by the actual definitions, magical artifacts could easily be classified as technology.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/technology
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scienceBTW, he's also lying about me being banned, I'm currently logged into the other forum now, I just haven't felt the need to post recently.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Reread the thread.
If you're referring to the verbatim conversation I posted that Thor and Jane had, then no, that was not Thor "flat out" saying it's not magic.
Jane Foster: Describe exactly what happened to you last night.
Thor: Your ancestors called it magic...
[Thor skims through a book on Norse mythology]
Thor: ...but you call it science. I come from a land where they are one and the same.
Originally posted by Robtard
If you're referring to the verbatim conversation I posted that Thor and Jane had, then no, that was not Thor "flat out" saying it's not magic.Jane Foster: Describe exactly what happened to you last night.
Thor: Your ancestors called it magic...
[Thor skims through a book on Norse mythology]
Thor: ...but you call it science. I come from a land where they are one and the same.
See, I told you that Quan was a liar.
Originally posted by Robtard
If you're referring to the verbatim conversation I posted that Thor and Jane had, then no, that was not Thor "flat out" saying it's not magic.Jane Foster: Describe exactly what happened to you last night.
Thor: Your ancestors called it magic...
[Thor skims through a book on Norse mythology]
Thor: ...but you call it science. I come from a land where they are one and the same.
Exactly......Thor's conversation with Jane simply proved that Asgard already holds a high knowledge of both science and the realization of magic.
The comments in regards to this are interesting but it doesn't need to go beyond this.
Originally posted by RobtardWhatever the word is it doesn't matter. It's arguing over semantics.
If you're referring to the verbatim conversation I posted that Thor and Jane had, then no, that was not Thor "flat out" saying it's not magic.Jane Foster: Describe exactly what happened to you last night.
Thor: Your ancestors called it magic...
[Thor skims through a book on Norse mythology]
Thor: ...but you call it science. I come from a land where they are one and the same.
Originally posted by Silent MasterOh relax derp. Don't worry you don't have to go back to herochat.
See, I told you that Quan was a liar.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Exactly......Thor's conversation with Jane simply proved that Asgard already holds a high knowledge of both science and the realization of magic.The comments in regards to this are interesting but it doesn't need to go beyond this.
Imo, It can be interpreted several ways, but ultimately it supports more favorably towards magic as in Asgard 'science and magic are one and the same', there being no distinction between these two fields.
Add that Thor is based off a magical comic character, just further cements it.
Placidity was right; Nibedicus has a good interpretation of it too.
Originally posted by Robtard
Imo, It can be interpreted several ways, but ultimately it supports more favorably towards magic as in Asgard 'science and magic are one and the same', there being no distinction between these two fields.Add that Thor is based off a magical comic character, just further cements it.
Placidity was right; Nibedicus has a good interpretation of it too.
I always enjoy Placidity's comments and damn I haven't been a decent commentator hear for a whiles but....
Originally posted by Placidity
This is pretty much what I am trying to get people to say while feeling silly (or not, who knows) at the same time.Ok guys, you win, I just found the draft synopsis for Thor 2:
Thor 2 will be a prequel about how they came to develop tech powers but cleverly disguised it as "magic" for fun. For example Odin whispering "enchantments" to a hammer, which was really a voice command to the advanced AI computer inside the hammer. We will discover that it was actually Odin Stark Snr who discovered the tech (by the way he had a son on Earth, the ancestor of Howard Stark of course). Odin Stark Snr, who was actually an evil nerd scientist, killed all the other scientists so that only he would have the mighty tech powers, he also destroyed all technology and scientific knowledge in the whole world so that no one would be able to replicate it and challenge his power. One day his son, Odin Jnr (father to Thor) discovered his father's treachery. He challenged Odin Snr to a old fashioned duel (as opposed to a high tech one) and defeated him. With his father laying there dying, Odin Jnr took the all-spark from his father and merged it into himself. "With great power comes great responsibility" said Odin Jnr, and he vowed to use his powers for good. Odin Jnr fought many marvelous battles, including fighting space tech demons, Storm Troopers and the Frost Giants who were experts in high-tech Cryo-fusion weaponry. Having hit old age, Odin Jnr retired and settled down being King, head engineer and CEO of Odin Corp where he teaches science to others. Because he is saturated with "science" at work, to get away from his work at home, he established a no tech (or visible tech) policy while inside his castle. This means only primitive tools and machines are allowed in his home. Of course, secretly, he had been working on a pet project, "The Destroyer" in his basement, building bits and pieces here and there when he had spare time. He eventually married and had a son who we know today as the brave warrior Thor! He adopted his son Loki, who was really a Frost Giant, but Odin Jnr easily used his knowledge of genetic engineering to suppress his Frost Giant genes. Together the brothers would have their own adventures, eventually leading up to the events of Thor!
😆 Oh Come On!
Lets just focus on the original idea of the Asgardians.
Primitive Earth Gods existing in the Nexus of Reality and Odin's dad (Bor) stumbles on a powerful seed of unlimited power. Yadda Yadda.
Yet gets destroyed by a powerful sorcerer. And Odin rises to power and during the process creates the Destroyer Armor to aid him in intergalactic wars.
I like Nibedicus' views as well though I can't be daft reading back on it all.
I agree that the film versions of the mythos of Marvel's 616 universe is off. But there is no reason to still assume it doesn't still exist along the lines of it. This is an odd fight.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It doesn't matter what word we attach to it. That's the point.
It's MAGIC Quan. They know it and have fought it for an eternity.
Thor's armor plating is no doubt there for a reason.