Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Know what's even more useful? The ability to teleport instantly. The ability to create a wall of fire that will obey your command and cannot be extinguished. The ability to mind rape and control your opponents.The ability to.....well, yeah, you get my drift.
Can't teleport if you're dead, can't cast fire walls if you're dead. Just stop with that "mind rape" nonsense, it isn't in the films in a fashion that's usable in a fight. Wizards do not = Xavier.
Originally posted by omgchos
Actually there is no proof that AK would even be stopped by solid objects from the standpoint of the movie. See my video on the previous page. It never even hits anything but people in the movies. So this armor argument does not have a leg to stand on.
AK's quickly becoming the no-limits spell. Pretty soon it will be taking down Silver Surfer and Galatus, maybe even Stan Lee.
It's also telling of the power difference if the fight weighs in on one spell working or not on a few Avengers.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Eeyup. Good thing there's at least a hundred death eaters pointing. And in basic combat, you just have to point to stun your target. That should give someone enough time to say a few words.
You seem to keep forgetting that the DE's are inside Hogwarts. They're not ammassed at one end of the battlefield pointing all their wands at an enemy coming at them from the opposite side of the map. They're cooped up in a castle with corridors, halls, rooms, gardens, etc. All of w/c they have to patrol in order to keep an eye on. The Avengers are the ones coming in, giving them both the initiative as well as the advantage of choosing where the battle will occur as well as the advantage of stealth and surprise.
Also, where do you keep getting "hundred death eaters" from? Any quote on tne book/movie about this number?
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
It says ALL his death eaters. How is he going to take over the world with 20ish guys?
They had more allies in the form of snatchers, werewolves, giants and other magical creatures. From what I'm reading, there are far fewer DE's than a hundred at the battle of Hogwarts.
Tho, OP needs to clarify at what point of history we'll be getting the DE numbers.
Originally posted by Robtard
Can't teleport if you're dead, can't cast fire walls if you're dead. Just stop with that "mind rape" nonsense, it isn't in the films in a fashion that's usable in a fight. Wizards do not = Xavier.
Ahahahahaa, you reek of Potter hate. You also reek of Potter ignorance.
No attack the Avengers can throw at the DE's is instant. None. Apparition? It's instant. Invisible, Intangible and teleporting.
And yeah, ever hear of Imperio? Crucio? Body bind curse?
Why do you debate/diss HP when you obviously know nothing of it?
Originally posted by NibedicusCount them:
They had more allies in the form of snatchers, werewolves, giants and other magical creatures. From what I'm reading, there are far fewer DE's than a hundred at the battle of Hogwarts.Tho, OP needs to clarify at what point of history we'll be getting the DE numbers.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerI don't give a **** what you did you worthless peon.
Already clarified it to him here.
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Count them:
Looks to me about 30 (including Voldy) on the Dining Room scene. Looks like I was right.
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Ahahahahaa, you reek of Potter hate. You also reek of Potter ignorance.No attack the Avengers can throw at the DE's is instant. None. Apparition? It's instant. Invisible, Intangible and teleporting.
And yeah, ever hear of Imperio? Crucio? Body bind curse?
Why do you debate/diss HP when you obviously know nothing of it?
Ooooooh! Youdunit now! Robtard gonna bring de pain!
Originally posted by Nibedicus
You can ignore the books or state that it is inadmissable evidence (where the spells DID bounce off metal objects), but you have to admit that you have no proof either as the spell never met armor in the movies. So the "it passes thru armor" argument has no leg to stand on either (other than personal interpretations of what the SFX means). Thus, I return to my multi-scenario proposition in moving the debate forward.Plus, I ask again, did the AK spell get blocked with a book at 0:53 of the video you just showed?
Originally posted by omgchos
You have to prove the positive. Armor blocks AK is a positive. I never actually said one way or the other i just posted the proof i could find which isnt much in the movies i admit. And as the book thing it doesnt look like it did. Hermiones spell shot at Goyle(or was it Crabbe in the movie) hit the stuff on the shelf sending it flying up.
AK bypasses armor is a positive, too. Having no evidence (that is admissable, anyway) to prove that armor blocks AK is not proof that AK bypasses armor. Like I said, if you exclude the books, then neither side can claim one thing or the other conclusively. Thus, a dual scenario debate shud be adapted (where one bypasses and the other does not) in order to move the debate forward.
Someone cast an AK at someone. Looks more like to me that someome shot an AK and Hermione used a book to block it, sending thr book flying up from the recoil. Either that or someone missed an AK spell at point blank range and Hermiome just decided to toss a book in the air (w/c wouldn't make sense really).
Originally posted by Nibedicus
AK bypasses armor is a positive, too. Having no evidence (that is admissable, anyway) to prove that armor blocks AK is not proof that AK bypasses armor. Like I said, if you exclude the books, then neither side can claim one thing or the other conclusively. Thus, a dual scenario debate shud be adapted (where one bypasses and the other does not) in order to move the debate forward.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Someone cast an AK at someone. Looks more like to me that someome shot an AK and Hermione used a book to block it, sending thr book flying up from the recoil. Either that or someone missed an AK spell at point blank range and Hermiome just decided to toss a book in the air (w/c wouldn't make sense really).