Avengers vs Death Eaters

Started by Silent Master51 pages

All the evidence points to the Death Eaters not putting security spells on Hogwarts.

Those facts being

1) The movie never mentioned the Death Eaters placing security spells on Hogwarts,
2) Harry and friends snuck into Hogwarts without any "security spells" going off
3) No mention was made that they by-passed any such spells.

Stupid question: didn't they hold an assembly in hogwarts to see if harry got in? Despite secret portrait entrances, it seems that they knew harry at least got close to the castle.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Derp

I really dont like repeating myself, which you seem to have no problem with. But i guess beating this into your head is the only way you'll understand.

1) Absence of proof is not proof of absence. And again your powers of observation continue to fail you. As i stated hogshead was protected with an alarm spell. Which shows the presence of mind that you seem to think the DEs lack.

2) Since Harry and friends entered hogwarts through a magical passageway that only exists when the room of requirement wants it to, why would it set of defensive spells? Your arguments are repetitive and lame, in the truest sense of the word. No legs to stand on there derp.

3) All you're ding is making the same argument with different wording. No need to put a three here. See answer number 1.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Stupid question: didn't they hold an assembly in hogwarts to see if harry got in? Despite secret portrait entrances, it seems that they knew harry at least got close to the castle.

Yeah they tried to change up the story in the movie to have a "cool" harry reveal scene to snape. Even tho half the people that were "in hiding" in the room of requirement showed up to this assembly, if not all of them. Which makes no sense if they were hiding, lol. I think it was more that snape heard about the caterwailing charm going off in hogsmead and as we know might have been trying to protect harry in some way.

Again, there is no metion of Death Eaters placing sercurity spells on Hogwarts in the movie.

Ok so far I tallied:

Avenger tactical advantage:
-range
-Aoe
-versatility (for Thor and IM)
-initiative
-accuracy
-individual rate of fire (IM and BW)
-mobility for just IM and Thor
-suprise/stealth
-teamwork/leadership
-more varied combat experience
-more effective weaponry
-far more effective in melee

Death Eaters
-numbers (30-to-6)
-possible one hit kill or one hit stun (can miss, needs to be spoken to cast)
-overall mobility (all DEs can fly)
-possible multiple angles of attack
-can turn semi-intangible

What else am I missing?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Ok so far I tallied:

Avenger tactical advantage:
-range
-Aoe
-versatility (for Thor and IM)
-initiative
-accuracy
-individual rate of fire (IM and BW)
-mobility for just IM and Thor
-suprise/stealth
-teamwork/leadership
-more varied combat experience
-more effective weaponry
-far more effective in melee

Death Eaters
-numbers (30-to-6)
-possible one hit kill or one hit stun (can miss, needs to be spoken to cast)
-overall mobility (all DEs can fly)
-possible multiple angles of attack
-can turn semi-intangible

What else am I missing?

I believe versatility should go with the Death Eaters since they have far more options of different spells than the Avengers have of different attacks.

DE should also get advantage for the environment since they're at their home turf and are already holed in.

Originally posted by omgchos
]What casper forgets is that in the confines of hogwarts, excluding Dumbledore, no one can apperate.

Depends really. By the end of Deathly Hallows this enchantment seems to be gone as many of Voldemort's followers apperate away when Harry is revealed to still be alive.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's clear this thread of "100+ to 6" was made out of spite since the Avengers are forced to now enter and try to clear the castle when Thor and Iron Man could level it to ash and rubble.

lol, good point.

It's not 100+ to 6 tho. More like 30 to 6. 😛

Snape is a Death Eater. His reactions to an attack from Harry Potter, while his back was turned, was faster than any Jedi or Sith reaction. Apparently, Snape was a really good duelist...among the very best. So I am not going to pretend like the Death Eaters are as good as Snape. But...Voldemort is better than Snape.

Be literal and objective: Voldemort Solos the avengers. This thread ended before the OP started the thread. Thread should have never been created. The thread starter knew the Avenger Bandwagon would create a lengthy debate thread and all of you fell for it.

Unless someone like, shoots him in the head.

I hate to say it but voldy wasnt mentioned by the thread starter. hes not a death eater, hes just their boss.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Unless someone like, shoots him in the head.

Yeah, Harry Potter doesn't have any shield spells.

YouTube video

Originally posted by omgchos
I hate to say it but voldy wasnt mentioned by the thread starter. hes not a death eater, hes just their boss.

He's onto something there.

Originally posted by omgchos
I hate to say it but voldy wasnt mentioned by the thread starter. hes not a death eater, hes just their boss.

The God Father is not a mafioso because he's just their leader.

Technically, it says 'Voldemorts Death Eaters', making the big man himself exclusive due to the possessive implication.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, Harry Potter doesn't have any shield spells.

To defend against magical spells(!). Has anyone in HP ever blocked a bullet with one?

Originally posted by Nephthys
To defend against magical spells(!). Has anyone in HP ever blocked a bullet with one?

Rowling contradicts herself, here. She says a gun could take down a wizard quite easily, yet....the entire premise is built upon this idea of Voldy's that the wizards should be ruling the world because they are more powerful.

So you tell me which truth to subscribe to.

But, yes, simple shield spell is enough to separate two fighting boys...said force to separate those two is much much greater than the force a "falling" bullet provides.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Snape is a Death Eater. His reactions to an attack from Harry Potter, while his back was turned, was faster than any Jedi or Sith reaction. Apparently, Snape was a really good duelist...among the very best. So I am not going to pretend like the Death Eaters are as good as Snape. But...Voldemort is better than Snape.

Be literal and objective: Voldemort Solos the avengers. This thread ended before the OP started the thread. Thread should have never been created. The thread starter knew the Avenger Bandwagon would create a lengthy debate thread and all of you fell for it.

Word.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Rowling contradicts herself, here. She says a gun could take down a wizard quite easily, yet....the entire premise is built upon this idea of Voldy's that the wizards should be ruling the world because they are more powerful.

So you tell me which truth to subscribe to.

But, yes, simple shield spell is enough to separate two fighting boys...said force to separate those two is much much greater than the force a "falling" bullet provides.

No, she doesn't. You assume a straight fight, while wizards have a ton of other options at their disposal to take over fairly easily. It would be fairly simple for even a single Death Eater to mindcontrol every government leader on the planet from the shadows.

When did it do that? Also, lol at the suggestion that separating two boys means it can block a bullet.